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: couchhounds October 15, 2007, 07:27:47 PM
hi everyone, i have 2 beautiful bloodhounds. lily, a 2 and a half year old red female, and a 4 month old black and tan little girl named piper. we live in new hampshire and i have read everything i can find on blood hounds. i came here hoping to share and recive advice. neither of my little girls are used for tracking or mantrailing. and i have never wanted to train them that way, i know that is it almost impossible to let a bloodhound just run around an unfenced in yard or walk off leash but this is what i am training piper to do. she is young enough to still want to follow me so i am using this to my advantage. has anyone else had any luck with this? the breeder i got piper from had her two out just wandering the yard. so i know it is possible.
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: LibbyP October 15, 2007, 08:40:23 PM
Hi there and welcome! You've come to the right place, there are tons of members with different breeds and different levels of experience. I am sure your girls are just beautiful and can't wait to see some pics ~ we love pics around here.
Before we got our EM ~ Libby, we used to have a Redtick Coonhound, we had her since she was 3-4mos old and till the day she died she would run like the wind if given a chance. We took her to dogparks with a lunge line attached to her for chance she tried to 'take off' someone would be able to stop her, and we used tons of treats. She was allowed off line acouple times in the woods but I stressed the whole time, it was with great relief that 'she' decided to come back, her nose was always to the ground and it was fun to hear/watch her track a scent, then stand on her hind legs against a tree baying the whole time.
I know this really wasn't the advice you were looking for :) and I'm sure others will be on to offer some more tips ~ Kim
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: VdogLover October 15, 2007, 10:11:14 PM
Welcome to Big Paws!!
I have never owned a Bloodhound, but did own a Bluetick Coonhound for many years until he passed at age 16. I  never could trust him off leash in an unfenced area.
 Up until about the age of 5 even in a fenced area if his nose said it was time to go, and he could find a way under he was gone. He was the only dog of mine I ever used a electronic training collar on and that was after the 10th time of bringing him back from the very upset neighbors house. Not his fault they had a coon living in their garage, but none the less it was the collar or back to the pound. He didn't even care if I was standing by him trying to stop his forward motion under the fence, however the collar did teach him it was forbidden.
Good luck in their training. Since the breeder has trained hers that way maybe she can help guide you.
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: GoldenPyrs October 15, 2007, 11:17:10 PM
Hi & welcome!  I'm Marie and I don't have any bloodhound experience, but your girls sure are adorable.  We have a golden/lab mix and 1 and 3/4 Great Pyrenees (tee hee, our female is a mix) and we've had 2 Pyrs before that are waiting for us at the bridge, so I sympathize with the off leash thing.  Pyrs are also notorious for running whenever they have the chance.  If you want to train your little one, you may find it safest to do so on a lunge line like Kim did or something similar until you know for certain that she won't take off.  I'm glad that you found us.
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: jennifer October 16, 2007, 06:28:10 AM
Hi and welcome! I'm Jennifer, Mom to Bear and Nakita (both Saints), and Charlie, a very tolerant cat.

Your pups are beautiful. :)  We had a hound mix in my childhood home that stuck close to home, so that 'go' gene must have been lost in the mix. ;)  I think your breeder is a good place to start, and I'm sure folks here will have lots of good suggestions. 
 
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: Gracie Belle October 16, 2007, 06:41:16 AM
Hello and welcome.  I'm Misty and my pup's are listed in my signature.  The only experience I've had with a scent hound is with a beagle I once had.  As I never had experience with the breed and with a scent hound I didn't trust myself to ever let her off a leash.  You will receive a lot of great advice here and I'm sorry I can't be of much help with this particular subject.  I just wanted to introduce myself and welcome you and your girls to the board.  I've always loved blood hounds and I look forward to seeing more pictures and reading stories about your girls.  Again, welcome.
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: Amy (guffer) October 16, 2007, 07:15:32 AM
Hi there and welcome!  My name's Amy and my human and furry kids are listed in my signiture!  I'm kinda new here, too.  I'm sure you'll love this group as much as I do.  Everyone is so nice and helpful!

I never had a bloodhound, but I did own the sweetest male basset hound when I was a kid.  He would follow his nose everywhere!  He was wandering off constantly.  He never actually "ran" away, but walked off whenever he caught a scent.  And when he was on the trail, he refused to come when called.  So we really had to pay close attention to him when he was outside.

Now I have 2 great pyrs that I adopted in June, and they escaped once, before we put up our 6 foot front gate.  They RAN!  Thankfully the city dog catcher caught them before they got hurt, and within hours we were able to spring them from "jail" and bring them home safe and sound. 

Good luck with your girls.  I agree that a lunge line might help with them, since when the hounds are following a scent, they're usually not running at full speed.  Good luck!
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: couchhounds October 18, 2007, 08:28:50 PM
does anyone know what a reasonable stud fee would be for a bloodhound?
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: VdogLover October 18, 2007, 08:32:26 PM
In my breeds stud fees normally run about what a puppy from said produced litter would sell for. 
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: Sillygoose October 19, 2007, 06:20:42 AM
Welcome to the board. You're girls are just beautiful. I'm Tina mom to Annie, Merri and Tripper. ANd 3 human kids. We need more pics though. Tons of them for that matter.
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: couchhounds October 19, 2007, 08:35:26 PM
ok, so i was just looking into stud fees becuase eventually i want to breed my black and tan hound. and the only breeder i could find around me wanted 1100. that is more than waht i paid for both my dogs put together.
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: Malishiku October 19, 2007, 09:10:26 PM
I have no personal experience with training hounds, but know of people who have. The best that I can do is give some training advice.

I'd start with some focus with her, since she is a pup. Have her sit in front of you and reward everytime she looks at you. Make a command for this, such as "Watch" or whatever other word you would like to use.

As for stud fees, yes the price of what you would pay for a single pup is the norm. I highly suggest that if you plan on breeding her in the future, to do some Tracking with her as well. Play lots of scent games that require her to use her nose. Not only is it GREAT for the breed, but it can be LOTS of FUN too! I play them with my Malinois. She has an amazing nose and we both enjoy these scenting games. She enjoys it a little too much though (it's a great quality!), I think she might be part Bloodhound -wink-, lol.

As for Obedience...AK C Rally would be a great start for any "on the field" work. Since you can do just about anything (except touch the dog) to motivate her. I've seen some Bloodhounds trial and complete the course with no problems and have earned their Rally titles. They aren't quick about it, but that's okay, take your time and have fun!

Also, expand your options and search out other Stud owners. You want the BEST dog that will compliment your female. Don't settle for anything less. If the Stud owner closest to you is a great dog, then kudos to you. You never know though, perhaps there is an Obedience dog out there that you can breed to. That's your goal, isn't it? To have a Bloodhound who can also do Obedience? Look for those traits.

Write out a list of the great qualities your female has and of other qualities you would like to see. Then find a Stud dog who, when combined with your female, can produce such possiblities in the next generation.

Welcome to forums and please enjoy your stay!
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: couchhounds October 20, 2007, 06:32:54 PM
i do want to breed my pup, but i am not looking to breed her to make money, i don't want to sell the pups to make money, i just want to breed her because i want the pups for myself. kinda lame, i know.
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: Malishiku October 21, 2007, 08:07:45 PM
i do want to breed my pup, but i am not looking to breed her to make money, i don't want to sell the pups to make money, i just want to breed her because i want the pups for myself. kinda lame, i know.

I'd say to do your homework of all that is involve before, during and after breeding. Which you should. It is understandble to keep one, maybe two pups from the litter...but all of them??? Having too many puppies at once is more then a handful. How will they all receive the proper attention and training that they will need?

You'd need to have homes waiting for them. And do follow-ups on the pups. You must be there for the pups and new owners throughout their entire lives. It is a responsiblity.

Why not talk it through with the breeder you got your puppy from? They/he/she should be there for you; to mentor you.

It sounds as if you should just get another puppy from this same breeder in the future. Perhaps a similar or repeat breeding. It'd actually be less costly and less work on your part (and possibly heartbreak - as Jacksmom as mentioned).

Think about it. You have plenty of time.
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: couchhounds October 27, 2007, 07:44:06 PM
just wanted to let everyone know, that i have 2 new aditions to the animal family, one would be a springer spaniel named trigger, and the otehr would be a 15 year old appy/arab gelding by the naame of myca (like the silvery flakey rock stuff).
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: GoldenPyrs October 28, 2007, 01:59:04 AM
Awww, Trigger is adorable.   :-*  You'll have to post pics of Myca when you have a moment.  There's a number of people here on BPO with horses, too.
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: couchhounds November 04, 2007, 02:49:54 PM
so here are the pics of myka, and already... he is giving me some toruble. but thats ok, how do you win a horses trust?
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: ZooCrew November 04, 2007, 03:30:10 PM
Hello, welcome to BPO!
Your pups are gorgeous, as is your horse.
I'd seriously consider all your options before breeding your female.  I'd love to have a litter of pups and it would be very tempting to keep them all, but after 3 months I'm sure I would be reconsidering the little monkeys.

As for how to win a horses trust?  The same way you would a dog's.  Lots of time, patience and love.  And some treats never hurt either.  Don't force the animal to do something it doesn't want to..........le t it come to you on it's own terms.
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: chaosndestruction November 05, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
and ALWAYS end any type of training session with the horse on a good note...no matter how un-cooperative they are being. If they do the smallest thing correct that you ask for stop...praise them and leave it alone for a while.

As for gaining trust...carrot s, apples, and a little grain always help! Speaking in a calm voice and slow movements are a good thing to remember as well...this might take a bit of patience...don't get frustrated if he doesn't come near you/accept you right away...they can sense these things:) Sooo don't be afraid/frustrated...Just be calm and patient.

Horses will let out a kind of *sigh* or grind their teeth a few times when they accept/start to feel comfortable with knew/unfamiliar things as well.

How long has Myca been with you now? If it's been less than 2 weeks you also should remember that he's still getting used to his new home..and it can take a few weeks for some horses to settle in and start to feel comfortable.
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: couchhounds November 06, 2007, 07:28:36 PM
well, i have had myka for just over a week now, and he comes when he is called but when ever i walk through the pasture (thats the only way to get to his barn to feed him) he follows me with his head low ot the ground. i know he hasn't been handled all that much in the last few years. which is one of the reasons i took him, i felt bad for him. i mean, i am not new to the horse world. my frist horse was a 20 yo mare, she was half arab half quaterhorse. and for an old girl... she was full of arab fight. but i knew the people she came from, and i knew that the only reason they gave her up waas because they didn't have enough room for her. but with myka... i don't know, when he looks at me there is just something in his eyes... i can't explain it. right now, i haave taken to leading him to the barn when i go to feed him, that way he doesn't have the chance to charge my from behind. also, while he is eating i brush him and touch him, and just taalk to him. though this morning, thank god for layering clothes, he grabbed right a hold of my sweatshirt and ripped it. and i know this is mean, but he promptly got a slap in the nose. i know he is still getting used to me, but i can't let anything slide.
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: chaosndestruction November 07, 2007, 09:50:15 AM
Be careful with that. If he has trust issues you can make him head shy by hitting him in the nose.

Some horses have a "fetish" with grabbing onto clothes. I try to re-direct that behavior. My stallion tries to do this, instead I give him my hand and he licks it.

Instead of hitting his nose, I smack him on the neck or chest, along with a firm "NO!", if the grabbing of clothes is aggressive or he has intentions to try nipping me. But sometimes when my stallion does this it's neither...it's just kind of a weird habit.

Where you touching him before he grabbed you? We have a horse that is food aggressive and will get pissy at us if we try to do anything with her while she's eating (especially when she's prego). Maybe you hit a sore spot? Our old mare that we recently had to put down would get bitey when one of her ribs was out and she needed the chiropracter.

I hope after correcting him that you made sure to do what you were doing before and ended it on a good note.

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: couchhounds November 15, 2007, 03:22:35 PM
ok, so now i have a new issue, my older hound has become very aggresive towards my mom. in the past 2 days she has tried to bite her. once when lily was on the couch in the living room, where she isn't supposed to be (she has slept on a crappy sofa in my room for the last year and a half and has never gotten on the couch in hte living room before) anad my mom tried to grab her collar to take her off, she growled and showed her teeth, and then tonight, my mom had put some double sided tape on the floor to keep a rug from slipping, and lily was starting to chew on the tape and my mom went over to her and agaain she growled and baared her teeth. now, my mom is not an animal person... at all. and ever since lily was a pup she has constantly harrased my mom, and i don't know how to fix this. and suggestions? i have tried just abaout everything, my mom and lily even went to training classes, we bought a shock collar (even though i didn't want to) and nothing works, she is pretty much defiant to the end.
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: couchhounds December 04, 2007, 06:53:00 AM
ok, so in the past few weeks, lily has been gettin more and more aggresive, and just... well cranky. she has snapped at my mom twice, my brother in law, and myself. i have tried just about everything taht i can do on my own. with out seeking prof help (mainly because i can't afford it) i love her to death, but my parents say that if she tries to bite one of the grand kids, she will have to go. and it isn't just resource gaurding, she used to let us open her mouth and take things out, (she likes to eat things she knows she isn't supposed to) but now... i don't dare try and take things out of her mouth, or brush her teeth. i just don't know what to do, i think she is still bent out of shape because of piper and trigger moving in. but it has been just about 2 months. i just don't konw what to do.