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: Shedding Help!!!!I have tumble weeds flowing around the house....
: Sunnyday August 08, 2005, 08:50:26 PM
As you all know I have only had sunny for a month now but she seems to be shedding alot..I read that it could be due to poor nutrion..Does anyone give supplements that reduce shedding here?  What should I use?  I have been brushing her everyday but this seems like alot..I just pet her and it is falling out...I also heard cool bath to get the undercoat to release..Any Ideas or information will help..

Thanks
Jenny and sunny
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: GYPSY JAZMINE August 08, 2005, 08:53:25 PM
Do you have a "rake"...That brush is a lifesaver here!!!!!!!!!!!!...Does sunny blow her coat like Pyrs do?...Sammy seems like he will be bald before the hair stops coming out when I brush him!...If that is the case, this too shall pass...Until next summer...lol!
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: Sunnyday August 08, 2005, 09:33:15 PM
No I dont have a rake...But I am gonna go and get one..I have just been using a slicker brush and its not really doing the job..Do Pyrs shed alot?  This seems like it's never going to end.....UGH!!
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: Lucysdad August 08, 2005, 09:46:16 PM
Buy a bunch of different colors of spray paint, herd the little tumble weeds onto some newspaper and spray them. Tell nosey relatives and obsesive clean freaks its a decorating theme, Blame Martha........ .........

I will disavow all knowledge of this posting if word ever gets back to Nikki (GF, partner, co-parental unit of 2 dogs, SO, etc.)
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: jabear August 08, 2005, 09:50:21 PM
The rake is a life saver but you do neeed to use it regularly. The hair will keep coming so doing it on a regular basis will reduce the amount.
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: GYPSY JAZMINE August 08, 2005, 10:09:16 PM
No I dont have a rake...But I am gonna go and get one..I have just been using a slicker brush and its not really doing the job..Do Pyrs shed alot?  This seems like it's never going to end.....UGH!!
Does a bear s**t in the woods?...lol!..OMG yes they do!!...My backyard looks like it snowed where I brushed Samson out the past few days...Yes, it really does seem like it's never going to end but it will...until next year...lol!...The rake..it is a necessity I swear!....Get the one with the double row of teeth!
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: brigid67 August 08, 2005, 10:11:18 PM
LMAO Lucy's DAD - very good thinking
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: Khiori August 08, 2005, 10:19:05 PM
Ok, I'll have to finally admit it.  I don't know what a "rake" is!  Can someone post a picture?
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: GYPSY JAZMINE August 08, 2005, 10:19:10 PM
Buy a bunch of different colors of spray paint, herd the little tumble weeds onto some newspaper and spray them. Tell nosey relatives and obsesive clean freaks its a decorating theme, Blame Martha........ .........

I will disavow all knowledge of this posting if word ever gets back to Nikki (GF, partner, co-parental unit of 2 dogs, SO, etc.)
I'm tellin' unless you leave two unmarked bags of Premium Edge dog food behind the dumpster at Petco in Dubuque IA at midnight tonight...I am not kidding...I'll tell!...LOL! :D
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: jabear August 08, 2005, 10:23:33 PM
Oh Khiori. How do you not have a rake with a Newf around?
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: Khiori August 08, 2005, 10:26:11 PM
lol, who knows!  I just might have one here but don't call it that lol.  Seriously, I have a bag of "tools".  But I don't know if I have a "rake" or not.  *ashamed*
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: brigid67 August 09, 2005, 12:11:52 AM
do they have small rakes - my poms could use it...
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: GYPSY JAZMINE August 09, 2005, 12:16:53 AM
I'd imagine they do...Rakes are a God send I swear!!!!
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: lins_saving_grace August 09, 2005, 07:41:48 AM
Baths and brushing helps.  Not much though it seems.

I vaccum about 3 times a week. 
I use that Arm&Hamour pet hair release carpet stuff too.
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: newflvr August 09, 2005, 08:46:12 AM
If he's at all like a Newf, could he just be losing his puppy fur?  Chester is making truly authentic tumble weeds (he's a brown!!!).  I've been using a sort of loop with short teeth and  a leather handle (got it at Petco) and it's supposedly just for shedding.  Chester's breeder also suggested that once he looses all that soft downy stuff that I start adding "Inflight" to his food to control the amount of fur loss.  I bought it and it's in the freezer and I'm thinking I'll wait until it gets cooler to try it.  Will let you know what happens!
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: Khiori August 09, 2005, 09:57:36 AM
Oooo, I think I need a rake!
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: GeegLuvMyDogs August 09, 2005, 12:03:16 PM
Hi Jenny & Sunny,
I don't really have anything that profound or new to add to the advice already given, except to say that counting Ebony, our Newf, we have effectively "rescued" four massive-breed-furry-coated-dogs in the past five or six years and here's what I've learned:  nutrition is instrumental in a dog's coat. So given that you've only had Sunny a month and she's only been on good food for a month (I'm making some categorical assumptions that if you're taking the time to hang out with a bunch of dog-crazy people (and I count myself about as maniacal as they come), you're either cooking for your dog or buying the best available to you), you've got at least a few weeks of shedding ahead of you. Goldens do shed at least a couple times a year as far as I know. 

I also know that breeds with coats do need regular brushing and bathing to keep the skin healthy (as opposed to the double coated terriers that have ruled all of my adult life that only need regular brushing and stripping to keep their skin healthy, unless you're showing, which is a whole other thread!).  Take everyone's advice here and add a rake to your grooming collection.  For Ebony I went to Petsmart and bought a "horse" type rake.  Someone here has already described it: a long strip of flexible metal with short little teeth along the edge with both ends covered in about three or four inches of plastic or leather.  The handles can be bound together to form an eliptical type tool. 

We just got our shedding rake-thingy last year after already having had Sadie for three or four years.  The minute I used on Ebony, who was in the middle of throwing her coat over most of Southern Colorado, I wondered how we EVER lived without it!!  I just hadn't fully understood the difference in coats between terriers and coated dogs.   Now I do and I preach it like religion!!  My tack box for grooming has also grown substantially!

Ebony's also undergone some pretty significant changes in her environment over the past month, having moved from the inferno-on-earth known as southern Colorado, to the blissfully mild Pacific Northwest, so she's starting to blow her coat a little early this year.  While Dixie said her backyard looks like a snowstorm, I think ours looks like clouds of black smoke from a refinery!!

Hope this helps Jenny...Hugs to Sunny
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: newflvr August 09, 2005, 12:38:09 PM
Yep!  Use it OUTSIDE!  I learned the hard way!  VOLUMES of soft, brown downy fur flying everwhere!  But it does work!!
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: Khiori August 09, 2005, 01:27:28 PM
I have a blade like this expect mine is looped into four circles with a handle.  And YES volumes of undercoat comes out with this tool.  I use it sometimes when we hike in the forest.  It makes it look like a small animal exploded by the time we leave.  lol
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: Heighway September 20, 2005, 08:15:27 AM
My goldie is just hairy.  He gets raked, slickered and brushed every single day and still, if he just walks by you a cloud of air fills the air! He eats a good premium dog food, looks gorgeous with all the grooming, but he always has this poof of hair falling around him.  He does this every day of the year with a few exceptions, like when there is snow on the ground or it is belowing freezing outside. 
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: Jen and Rick September 20, 2005, 09:04:31 AM
Well, Becca sheds a lot year round, despite being on Eagle Pack her whole life...hopeful ly the change to raw will help.

But here's my trick for taking care of fur in the house.  Pretty much everywhere she lies down leaves a bit of fur behind...it flows under the couch and everywhere.  Get a soft bristle brush, the human type (to be used only for the carpet). "Goody" makes a good one with a wood handle and short, black bristles.  Now brush the carpet, the couch,  and run it under the couch too.  It works wonders at picking up hair in hard-to-reach places!

I always run it around the baseboards and under things the vacuum has trouble reaching.  It takes hair right off the couch, too, much better than using a vaccuum attachment.

Jen
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: Stacey September 20, 2005, 01:19:24 PM
There is also a thing called a pet hair sponge (for getting hair out of carpets and upholstry).  It is....and I don't want to oversell this thing......A MIRACLE!!!!  It looks like a sponge (different material) and you run it over your couches/chairs/whatever and it pulls the hair into balls that you just pick up and throw away. 
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: NoDogNow September 20, 2005, 06:41:55 PM
Oh, my god, furballs. 

Moto, my sister's Tyranocanis Muttis, has been know to send furballs in CHRISTMAS PRESENTS.  You would think in December in Utah he'd quit shedding, but it's never happened yet.  Last year, he shed all over the snowman the kids next door built.   

The only thing that has saved my sister's sinus cavity from utter implosion (naturally, she is severely allergic to her babies) is that One-Sweep broom that you see on the informercials.  You can sweep all the dog hair out of your carpet--she uses it to sweep the carpet three days a week before she vacuums.   

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: meg March 18, 2006, 03:31:51 PM
I have used a slicker brush for years, but it never seemed to get the undercoat.  I was about to purchase a rake when the groomer used a "Furminator" on her.  She looks just beautiful and so soft.  She told me they were about 55.00; but I did some researching and found one for 31.00.  It is just a small handle held tool that comes in different sizes.   Just another option.   I know it sounds pretty spendy, but I was thinking it may pay for itself quickly.
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: aggghgmom March 20, 2006, 04:21:52 AM
Harley is also a shedder but when my daughter was about 5 I moved her toy box(about an inch of space under it but hair just accumulates there) to vacuum under it and there was a BUNCH of hair she looked very perplexed and wanted to know how Harley fit under the toy box??????????

We had harley shaved down so now he looks like a skinny black lab we do this about once a year because brushing him is an arobic exercise!!  So now we have short black hair instead of long black hair, also leather furniture helps.
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: YelenaLevitina March 20, 2006, 04:50:26 AM
Brushing sure helps, but sometimes you get a lot of by-product. LOL
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: NoDogNow March 20, 2006, 05:09:01 PM
OH MY LORD!  I saw something in action this weekend that we all need.  I don't even have the dog yet, and I'm thinking, "I need to buy that!"

It's the Pet Buddy Hair Vacuum thing that's on the infomercials.  I was at a family St. Pat's thing this weekend (yes, I come from a large family of Scots-Irish drunks) and Kristy had one of these things. 

It's SO COOL. 

If you haven't seen the infomercial, it hooks up to a normal vacuum, like an attachment. You put the vacuum and the hair catching tub in another room, and there's a long, long hose that you take the dog or the cat or whoever to be brushed a room or two away--we went out to the patio.  The end of the hose has little grooming teeth on the end of it, and you just use that to brush your animal, and it sucks up all the hair as it loosens!

Obviously, it doesn't do as good a job as real tools do, but it did a really credible job of getting the surface loose fur, which meant that it was much less messy when she broke out the heavy-duty tools.  Plus, as she got little piles with the tools, she just sucked them into the vacuum!

The cats loved it even more than the dogs did.  I guess the sucking sensation of the vacuum hose was quite pleasant!

Most people brought their furkids, so we did 9 pr 10 cats and probably 8 dogs. The kids had a BLAST vacuuming their animals. :D  It's one of the funner things we've come up with for the kids to do at these family things in ages!

 
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: newflvr March 20, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
OH...I want one!!  How fun!!!  We have enough floating fur around here to knit an Irish Fishman's sweater!! (do they come in black, white and brown??)
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: ZoesMama March 20, 2006, 06:36:54 PM
I have the FURminator.  It works wonders on both my Saint AND my friends Golden Retriever.  It's a fantastic tool!
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: brandon March 20, 2006, 06:43:11 PM
I saw the Furminator at Petsmart this weekend, I nearly choked on the price though :)  Maybe I'm missing something that it does, but it looked just like a regular stripper to me, with a rake type handle.

Furminator
http://www.furminator.com/testbed/indexnew.html

Stripper
http://www.groomersmall.com/acc_knives.htm

Is it different / better than a regular stripper?
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: newflvr March 20, 2006, 07:12:07 PM
I just ordered one from www.vetpetdire ct.com.  There were a couple of sizes and were ON SALE!!  I have no idea how it will work, but I'll let you know when mine arrives...
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: ZoesMama March 20, 2006, 08:04:48 PM
I'm not really sure what's so different about the FURminator than the other stripping tools.  I don't have any of those.  I asked a friend of mine, who is a professional groomer, and she recommended the FURminator highly.  People will come into her shop just to have their dogs FURminated.  The cost is a bit much, however I don't have to take her in to be professionally groomed now either.  It doesn't hurt her and it pulls just the undercoat part out, which is apparently where most shedding occurs.  I was also glad that it came in a larger size for my larger dog.  Good luck!
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: puma56 April 10, 2006, 07:47:14 AM
Yup, yup--keep brushing, raking, all of the above--I do like the spray paint/decorating theme--or toss it all into the trees outside--they make great birds' nests.  Hey--it's almost Easter--maybe use them as placecards with some jelly beans in the center.