Big Paws Only Dog Forums
BPO Training Forum => Behavior, Housebreaking, Obedience => : People Whisperer July 31, 2008, 09:49:04 AM
-
I would like to hear what you all think about the dog who is not greeting its owner :-\
Before I bought a puppy I was reading all kinds of books regarding training etc. and it says that we should not make a big deal out of leaving or coming home so the dog doesn't develop a separation anxiety.
I never looked back when I was leaving and I would not even pat Lily until she is nice a relaxed upon my return. After about a year Lily wouldn't even get up when I was leaving or coming home. A couple of months ago she stopped coming downstairs when I get home from work. She would come down about an hour or so after me being home.
I remember a while ago somebody here mentioned that tail wagging means insecurity :-\ Is it?
Those of you who have dominant dogs...do they greet or not?
I can't say I don't like it...I just haven't heard of a dog who doesn't meet the owner by the door ::) :P
P.S. She does greet us like crazy if we are out late night. It's just after work thing...maybe she feels how tired I am and gives me some space? LOL
-
LOL I have Shibas, they dont greet at the door, it is beneath them :D This is part of the reason I dont want another one, they are like living with teenagers, as long as they have food you dont even know you have them ;D. I know a lady on another forum who has 3 Pyrs and she said they are the same as my Shibas, but I have no clue if that is normal for the breed. I can understand the though behind not making leaving a big deal, but I always make me comeing home a big deal for Gage. He gets fed when I come home, so he loves me ;D
Wish I could be more help, just know that you are not the only one :)
-
I know a lady on another forum who has 3 Pyrs and she said they are the same as my Shibas, but I have no clue if that is normal for the breed.
Yep, the most common question from my guests is "Where is Lily?". She is not noticable at all...she barks when people arrive, greets when they come in and they don't see her for the rest of the night; she is sleeping somewhere ::) :P
-
I'm a little jealous, actually.
-
Mine greet me each and every time that I come home. Usually just short of jumping on me but lots of licking, tail wagging, and nose up the butt goosing.
-
I bet it's just because it's so routine for her.
I think you are right Julie. Because I have avoided any greeting for so long and almost never pat her if she asks for it she "chilled" :) to the point that I feel a liitle lonely :D
Here is what I found
http://www.webtrail.com/petbehavior/dogthink.html
-
OMG, this part made me so sad. I make my dogs worry. :'(
When we are late getting home, or if they over-miss us because we spoil them with attention and petting every time they demand it, they very likely worry in images, too
Aww, that is sad :'( That is exactly why I like the way she "doesn't react". I don't feel guilty going for a happy hour after work or to the gym...I know Lily is in bed ::)
I just want to make sure that this doesn't mean she looks at us as Queen Lily followers :) ???
-
Olesya, I think you need to act like a complete a** when you come home. Dance, sing and bounce around. Then, your dogs will react like mine. :D
I don't want to hear me sing baby! LOL Lily might pack her stuff and leave me after the first song :D :D :D
-
I'm kinda jealous too. :D
I get pinned against the wall when I first walk in the door. They work together, Bubba leans and does the pinning and Lola does the wiggling and toe stomping. LOL
-
And you are total Queen Lily subjects.
NO WAY! You really think so? LMAO!!! ::)
-
Gunther, Nigel and Posey will meet me at the door. Nigel and Posey are usually extremely excited, with Nigel jumping on me even though he knows it's not allowed (we've been working on this since we got him).
They don't get petted right away but they have to wait till I make my way back to the bedroom to change. And N&P have to sit before they are petted.
Keiko does not greet me at the door, and hasn't in years. I guess she figured she was past the age of greeter and has passed the torch onto the younger generation. :D
-
Grace greets everyone at the door, except me. She's glad to see everyone with an exubrance and energy level that could shake the earth. Her stubby is always going a mile a minute and wags it a lot when she sees her new poodle boyfriend, Rosco.
I think wagging is a good sign. I tell people who seem afraid of her "her tail's wagging, don't worry".
-
All three of my dogs will greet who ever is at the door. They smell the person, and sit for a hello, and follow you around. None of my dogs have ever jumped...perha ps because titan weighs a skinny 200 pounds, and hasn't figured out he can jump yet. I like it when my dogs greet me, perhaps it is because the hubby works from 4 am until 12 am the next day. So it is a little security. They will bark 2 times, and then they go to their beds and relax. I would be offended if my dog didn't want to say hi to me, i would know that i have done something that they didn't approve of.
-
Kira will sometimes get up and come to the door when I get home but other times she will lay there look up at me with her tail wagging, Gunner, big goofball, on the other hand has learned that if he hits the storm door hard enough it will open and he comes flying out to me and usually trips me while he is running in circles around me but he hasnt jumped on me YET. He does do a little nipping lately though.
-
Mark me down in the jealous category! Bo has always been excited when we come home, but nothing crazy. He's actually worse with guests (which is very embarrassing).
Raja however... The first time we woke up in the morning after adopting her she practically attacked my husband with her enthusiasm. Our sweet docile dog was jumping on him, licking his face, stomping on his toes, and nipping at his goatee. Same reaction when we come home. Who ever wakes first or comes home first gets the full brunt of it, but it is repeated in a slightly more subdued manner when the next batter is up. It's not as bad as it used to be, but nothing seems to work training wise to stop it completely.
On the bright side, she is pretty polite with company. Just leans on them a bit and sits on their feet looking at them to pet her.
-
Butt and Tub are always waiting right in front of the door for me to come home.Once I'm in the door they do their best to try and knock me down.They won't leave my side until I take of my shoes,because that means I'm staying home now.
-
Wags you ask?? Try hallway blocking, tail wagging, kissing, snuffling, jumping (Cassie, if you don't say "down" fast enough), bowl you over nose shoving ::)....etc. ;D ::) It's pretty wild. After a business trip my poor hubby can't even get inside the house past them to say hi to the kids & I until he's spent a minute or two snuggling the woofies.
I think our's are different though b/c my husband works from home & I'm home full time, too. So it's unusual for us to be gone for any length of time without taking them along. We live in a cool-to-darn cold :-\ climate, so they can travel with us most of the time.
Olesya, I'm sure that Lily has just figured out your daily routine and so she's ok with it and she trusts you to come back home so she isn't worried. ;) :)
-
Both dogs hear my car pull up and are usually waiting at the door for me to come in, once inside they are pretty well behaved, I give them some hello rubs and then we all move on. ;D Incidentally, my cat, Gabriel (who I am convinced thinks he's a dog) also greets me at the door as well.
-
Nakita will come to the door to greet with kisses and demands for rubs. She's pretty good about giving space though. And she's excellent with visitors. And Charlie the cat sits on the kitchen island meowing 'til he gets a couple head-buts (goof).
Bear is a whole other story. He would position himself between me and the door from the mudroom into the house. I couldn't get by without a proper lean, rubs, and kisses. Then he was happy to accompany me to the kitchen for a lil' something. ::) I miss him. :-[
-
Oh - I wouldn't worry about Lily. Just sounds independent and confident to me. Just as a Pyr should be. ;)
-
My dogs are greeters too, as is the cat. But I also ignore them somewhat (to no avail) when I first get home, maybe a head/nose rub but nothing else.
My neighbor across the street says that the cat will actually lay on the porch and when it's about time for me to get home, regardless of which shift I've worked, he'll lift his head as each car approaches but will actually walk toward the driveway as my car rounds the corner before he's even seen me. She thinks it's the funniest thing. Apparently the dogs do the same thing, the other night my roommate said they must have esp because they both got up and sat next to the door before she heard the car in the driveway.
-
I cannot imagine not being greeted by our dogs ???
But we have never had any anxiety problems. we just give our dogs a doggie biscuit when kennel time during the day happens. And especially our golden cross, they fly to the kennel and sit waiting for the biscuit. 8)
Home time when they are kenneled means a talking session from the golden x and a body wag (not just the tail) from our newf.
Our newf is only sad :'( and annoyed >:(when we lock her up if we are home, like when we were doing the concreting. We do however only give them a quick pet when we get home and only the bicuit on the way out with no fussing. They are just too busy running and having fun with oneanother to worry us.
Our dogs have been taught to sit and greet us or visitors. No sniffing or jumping is allowed and they are good with that. Our newf does sit next to you and lean though.
Their favourite time is inside with us ;D
-
OMG- My boys are MANIACS when I come home! Champ does the typical Golden Retriever wag and usually needs a big hug from his momma (he presses his head into my leg...and when I pet him he lets out this little sigh of relief. He's my sweet, precious boy). Meanwhile, Winston makes this chirping noise (seriously, it sounds like a deranged bird) in his crate. When I open the door, he's like a bull- after a quick lick hello to me, he "steals" whatever toy Champ had that day and runs to the back door to be let out. Anyone in his way would be sorely sorry.... :)
Umm....those of you with dogs that sit politely to be greeted when you come home- Wanna make a road trip to Indy?? :) :)
-
Grace loves to greet company. In fact today, my friend Marsha stopped over with her 6 year old daughter. Grace loved her and tasted her many times. Samantha is so little that I thought Grace might knock her over like she does with most little people, but she was so gentle. That was after a neighbor's dog snapped at us and Grace barked back. Not a pretty sight. She was playing with her boyfriend, Rosco, and this terrier (who is naturally snippy) came over, dragging his person who is afraid of big dogs anyway. I motioned as best I could no don't come over because i knew these 2 don't like eachother, but it was too late and I planted my butt in the ground to hold Grace back. What a sight. Then to turn into a big baby when Marsha and Samantha come over. BUT, Grace was wagging her tail the whole time.
-
We're one of the odd ones out over here too :P If it's just my BF or myself coming home we get nothing. Phelan will maybe lift his head of the couch to maintain his tough guard dog status (read with complete sarcasm). That being said, he seems to know the difference between the normal sounds of BF and I arriving and someone else at the door. He will greet someone who knocks on the door. The BF and I both work shifts, and sometimes very opposite shifts, so I'm very thankful that my 3am arrival is not worth announcing when the BF is getting up at 5am.
Phelan also contends with the Hydro-man who enters the house once every two months to read the meter. It took them a year to notice that we had a dog, so I'm sure he doesn't get off the couch for them either!!
Kahn is still crated when we are not home so her greeting abilities are limited but she will greet the second person home. Her greetings so far are more in the protective mode, we get the "okay, it's you, you're allowed here" and off she goes to play with Phelan again. She is much more concerned with checking out "odd" noises and things that go bump in the night than he is.
While they don't get excited about our arrival, they are always excited to have a cuddle once we're settled in ;D Perfect for me :-*
-
Our guys are...weird. ;D
If they're in their crates they just sit there watching you until you let them out. Then they are too excited to go out and pee, no matter how long they've been crated.
If they are loose, however, it's a different story. Not the usual woof woof, I love you, pet me that most dogs are. Sammie will parade around with a shoe, sock, toy, or the occasional cat (yes, he carries the cat on super exciting days). It's as if he can't keep himself quiet if there isn't something in his mouth. As soon as you receive his marvelous gift, he starts wooing. Until you find his mess. He always has some mess. Usually nothing bad, he just explores things while we're gone. Meanwhile, Sky is in the kitchen barking his happy bark (nonstop shrill yipping and wooing and woofing) performing EVERY trick he's ever learned. Rolling over, waving at no one, chasing his imaginary tail, etc. It's all pretty hilarious, and I think they go above and beyond the "norm" when they sense I had a bad day. Gotta love them. :)