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: newf_owner September 10, 2009, 05:07:52 PM
i was lookin around doin a lil reading and i came across this

look at the pics of all the fur!!!!

wow!!!! ITS ANOTHER DOG


http://nessahappens.blogspot.com/2008/05/do-newfoundland-dogs-shed.html
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: patrick September 11, 2009, 06:46:01 AM
HAHAHA  Get ready!!
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: BigDogMama September 11, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
OMG!  That totally looks like another dog! I wonder if it will be the same with Wicket?  Pyrs have the double coat too... ;)
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: newf_owner September 12, 2009, 07:13:10 AM
im seriously just wondering how she got that much hair off at one time?? i bursh my newfie, and i get like 3 or 4 handfulls off, and i KNOW there is much more that needs to come off, because its all over my carpet, little fur balls, and on my pants as he passes by, i use a wire slicker brush, and i have a rake but it never really takes any thing off,

how'd she do it??

rota is going to get groomed today for his first time,

oh and you know how you can have your dogs trimed? like you can take a little from the ears, and the chest and back of legs? to help keep shape? and stop matting, when i mentioned to them that i wanted him to get trimed, they looked at me like i was crazy,

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: NewfieMama September 14, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
Ummm, yes, Cooper did his "Spring shed" this year in June, about a month after being completely groomed by his breeder. I got a good bit of hair off of him on his daily brushings in early June but then bam, it all let go and I filled 3 plastic grocery bags in one day. Now it's back to handfuls.

But yes, as Patrick said, get ready! It's not for the faint of heart, and the groomer won't get anywhere near all of it.


Good luck!

Mary
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: newf_owner September 14, 2009, 05:33:08 PM
how long does it usualy take your dogs at the groomer? im having the worst of luck with my dog

i took him to the groomers at my work, since they seem to know what there doing, and i droped him off at 9:30 and told them i worked at 12 id be back around 11, to get him, they said ok, i went to eat then went back to work it was 10:30 and they said oh well he is still very we,

to make a long story short, it was 1:30 and my dog was soaking wet and in one of there crates in the back, they had a dryer on him but it didnt apear to do any good, and i was really really mad, i paid 60 bux, FOR A BATH, i was like hes been here for 4 hours, and hes still soaking wet, he hasnt been brushed or had his ears cleaned and his nails done and the tooth bursh service (thats whats included in the package i paid for) and they were like well if you wanted an "express" you could have paid for it, and i was like i shouldnt have to pay extra for you to do your job, (this was the grooming salon manager btw) and so i took my dog, soaking wet and took him home and my boy friend towle dryed him (which took like 15 mins or so) and brushed him out myself...

when i wash him at home, it takes me 20 minutes give or take to get him washed and out of the tub and 20 to 30 minutes of brushing and towle drying to get him dry,

they had him for 4 hours and he was still wet

is this normal?

i didnt want my dog there in a crate for that long he hadnt been to the bathroom and he hadnt eatin his lunch, and they acted like it was perfectly normal for him to take that long (hes not to big yet, about 60lbs, around 24inches at the shoulder)

ehhhh.....
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: patrick September 14, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
I don't know how you would get a Newf dry in 1/2 hour  It takes the Pyrs several hours to dry and at least 24 hours if you just let them air dry.  Even using a dryer takes them several hours to fully dry  So I believe for you to expect it to be completely done including the ears nails comb out in 1 and 1/2 hours is unreasonable.
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: newf_owner September 14, 2009, 08:43:07 PM
i wash him and brush him untill he is dry, ive done it every 3 weeks or so since ive gotten him and its never taken that long, instead of leaving my dog in a crate unattended while there up front flirting with the inventory manager they could have atleast tryed to brush him out, or even towle dryed him,

the manager was like "well it usualy takes 3 to 4 hours" and guess what? he was there 4 hours not even half way done,

they could have cut his nails, and cleaned his ears while he was waiting to dry, but since i work there and i happen to know they had no other dogs to do and they were just sitting up front reall really makes me mad, he was hungry he needed to go to the bathroom and they give him "water" from a bottle which he has never had and prolly didnt even know how to drink from it

ive seen them do newfs for customers that were covered in mats that the girl had to shave and he was in and out in about 3 hours

just the fact that they didnt do well with my dog

and like i said hes not that big yet
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: newf_owner September 14, 2009, 08:45:24 PM
im just wondering on average from a professional groomer, how long has it taken for some one to have there dog done, because it took my groomers 4 hours to give my dog a bath

which by my terms is unexceptable
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: patrick September 15, 2009, 07:38:42 AM
Then perhaps you should continue to do it yourself  For the heavy double coated breeds 4 hours is probably the minimum  I personally wouldn't use a groomer if they did one of my Pyrs in an hour or so  The few times I have sent to a groomer the Pyrs are there the entire day.  And yes it is the norm to cage dry with a blower. 
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: NewfieMama September 16, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
Yes, it takes at least 4 hours to groom my Newf (at the groomer's). The bath and dry are the bulk of the "work" - I don't think the trim/nails etc. take all that much time once he's clean and dry.

If I bathe him at home it takes most of the day to dry. I'm not ready to invest $200+ in the right kind of blower so I prefer to take him to the groomer and only bathe him myself if I *have* to.

PetSmart has a puppy deal where they'll do the shampoo for 10.99.

Bear in mind that your dog still has his puppy coat as well - his adult coat will take a good bit longer to dry. I could towel and brush Coop for an hour and he would not be nearly dry once he's soaking wet. So it's worth the investment to find a good groomer (or invest in the blower and decide where you'll bathe him in cold weather when he's bigger).


Good luck.

Mary

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: newf_owner September 16, 2009, 02:30:47 PM
thanks, im lookin around, i want to find some one who can trim him properly as needed (ears, chest, back of legs) i wish i could find a newfie groomer.... or even a breeder in my area, im starging to see more and more newfs, but im not sure where there all coming from!!!
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: sc.trojans September 16, 2009, 07:01:43 PM

I understand your frustration... .you have outlined why I would never leave one of my dogs with an unknown groomer.  I do my dogs myself.  The fact is for me, I want my dogs to have a positive experience and not fear being bathed, crated or dried.  I can always tell dogs handled by strangers since they usually have issues with these things - especially dryers.  I think it is important to introduce a blow dryer carefully and positively to ensure accepted through life as well as being bathed and standing for it.  I give treats to ensure a positive experience and have a dog dryer, so two hairy dogs are bathed and fully blow dried in two hours.

The issue here with how long it takes is because they are not drying the dog - they are relying on cage drying....stic k the dog in the cage and point blowers on him so they don't have to do any actual grooming.  This always results in a "damp" dog when dealing with these breeds - The one time I took a Berner rescue to the groomer, I got back a damp dog.  I do not think cage drying is good practice either unless the dog has a real issue with dryers - then they will rely on it.  Ideally, a good groomer should be drying your dog.

Just know that it is not typical to be trimming a newfie - so you will get a confused look.  Trimming ears and feet are standard and this is what I do on my breeds as well - but legs and chest are not typically trimmed.  Again, I trim ears and feet myself - why pay someone to do something so simple?

I think you would be better served investing in a dog dryer and washing your dog yourself.  Unless you get a great referral to a highly professional groomer, not paid help, you won't likely get what you're looking for and your dog will sit in a crate, wet most of the day.
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: BigDogMama September 17, 2009, 02:05:55 PM
I totally agree with you SC Trojans!  I also groom my boys myself.  It usually takes me about 2 hours as well to bathe and dry both dogs.  Although Murphy, the husky/pyr mix has shorter hair than Wicket, the full pyr. I also agree that investing in a dog dryer would be best.  :D
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: newf_owner September 18, 2009, 08:07:36 PM
yeah, he was more than damp though, he was literaly DRIPING WET, like he had just hoped out of the tub, i knew it would take longer than my smaller dog (cosby the australian shephard) but ive watched my other groomer do him (i use to live in wv, and i had my aussie done ther all the time) and they would put him up on a table and dry him with a hand dryer and he always looked AMAZING!! they would trim his feet and between his paw pads, i mean he was so clean when he came out, he smelled great... here all i got was my soaking wet dog back.. that i had to pay 60 bux for...

when i said trimed i meant like this


from this .....
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka2.gif)


to this

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka1.gif)

this...

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka4.gif)

to this

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka3.gif)

i think you get the point

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka6.gif)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grsylwetka5.gif)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grfrontlegg1.gif)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/metroboarder/grfrontlegg2.gif)

i think newfies look GREAT when they are trimed properly, the cut gives them more shape to ther bodies and keeps them cleaner (no matting) thats what i meant... a groomer should know that, i should need to print pics from my computer and show them how to trim a dog

im afraid to do it myself because i dont really know what im doing, (i do have grooming scissors, they have rounded tips but im not to sure how to do what i want done)
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: BigDogMama September 19, 2009, 11:21:46 AM
No, you shouldn't have to print out pictures for a groomer!  Have you tried to find a grommer in your area that specializes in large breeds/double coated breeds?  I don't know how rare that is but it is worth a shot.  Also you could ask some fellow dog owners for recommendation s.

There is no excuse for a dog to be sent home dripping wet! I used to work for a dog boarding/daycare/grooming facility, and our groomers were great! They would hand dry untill the dog was 90% dry and then cage dry.  I never saw a dog go home damp, let alone dripping.

Maybe the vet you took Rota to (the one who specializes in large breeds) has a recommendation for a groomer.