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: Beath Anim.Shelter April 14, 2005, 12:55:20 PM
My male bloodhound, Buck,  died 2 days ago.  
His lifelong yardmate has been Gypsy, a female Collie.
I've always felt Gypsy was not MY dog, as much as she was the
bloodhound's dog!
She reacts with hysterics if I even try to take her out of the yard
where he is, to go to the groomers.  I had to stop! Even used a vet
who'd come here, so Gypsy didn't have to leave Buck's side...

Now, she wont' eat and is very lethargic.  It's been 2 days.  I've tried special treats, inviting her to come in the house, or for a walk.  Now, I'm just letting her have her quiet space.
I'm scared.  I don't want her to starve to death.
Has this ever happened to you?
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: jabear April 14, 2005, 01:00:43 PM
Oh my gosh! That is terrible news. I have no idea what to do other than to let her grieve and give lots of love an support. I hope that someone else can help. Please know that our prayers are going out to you and Gyspy.
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: jan n nori April 14, 2005, 02:52:16 PM
sounds like Gypsy bonded to buck more than u. maybe a pup would help
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: GR8DAME April 14, 2005, 02:52:16 PM
When I lost my 7 yo doberman, my 2 yo dobe, Bandit, was inconsolible. He wouldn't eat, paced the house and cried, looking out the windows, and wouldn't sleep. He wouldn't even stay on the beds with us. Within a week, someone told us about a female dobe that was being horribly neglected and abused (I am the neighborhood dog lady) and I went to see her. She was only a year old and when I knocked on their door and told them they needed to make some changes or I would either call animal cruelty or they could release her to me and I would find her a decent home. They gave her to me and we never found her a new home. When we walked in the door with her my dobe thoroughly sniffed her over, knocked her over and proceeded to clean her ears. By the time I took her into the bathroom for a bath, he had eaten and laid outside the bathroom door, waiting for us. Bandit has since passed away, but I have always kept at least two dogs at all times, and currently have three because Raven (my rescue) is getting up there in age. If they are used to the companionship of another dog, it's really hard on them to be alone.
Stella
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: Beath Anim.Shelter April 14, 2005, 04:10:14 PM
Thanks, all, for your compassion and suggestions.
Yeah, it's pretty clear that "Buck" the bloodhnd was most important to her.

We have another dog, but Gypsy just ignores him.  
My vet called, suggesting I take a couple ice cubes out to her, trying to
keep her from dehydrating.  She's not touching the water.

Losing Buck was a blow to us, but we just kept our focus on "what's best for him".  Now, poor Gypsy needs our help, but we just can't reach her.
I'll keep at it.  My vet says some dogs come out of it after a couple days.
Thank you all, again.
Connie
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: Sue M. April 14, 2005, 09:08:12 PM
Dogs are funny that way. Some one once told me that in a situation with 2 dogs like that, that a person should make sure that the other dog sees the dog that passed away. That way they know that they are gone and won't continue to look for them. I made sure and did this when we had to have our Katie Girl put down. We brought her home and into the house and let Bear Bear see her before we laid her to rest in our yard.

I know this doesn't help you much now but thought you all might find it an interesting thought.

Sorry about losing your Buck. I know how heart breaking that is. I'm praying for You and for Gypsy. I hope Gypsy's grief soon subsides.
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: Tynagh April 15, 2005, 12:34:59 AM
The homeopathic remedy Ignatia has excellent results in treating grief.  Give in the 30c potency and twice a day for two weeks. You can find a supplier of homeopathic remedies at http://www.homeopathyhome.com/services/remedies.shtml

You might also like to take a look at another energy therapy, called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), which can be used on animals as well as people and works wonderfully.  You can find out how to do it at http://www.animal-eft.org/
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: ToddsMom April 15, 2005, 02:12:38 AM
This may be totally irrelevant, since my experience was with rabbits and not dogs, but it is food for thought.

I had three bunnies, two females and one male (all spayed and neutered!!). The females never really got along very well, but one of them really bonded with the male, and the two of them were like peanut butter and jam.

I had to euthanize my big bunny this past fall, and my little girl was inconsolable. It was awful. I had hoped she would find comfort in the other remaining bunn, but she was just aggressive to her. I did not want another rabbit because there is no vet who really knows rabbits where I am now living, and I felt that I had as many animals as I could manage both financially and in regards to care.

But I could not stand my my little rabbit's grief. My own grief was particularly intense due to many of the circumstances surrounding this death, but I think I have shed even more tears over her loss.

I finally broke down and got her another boyfriend. He was a rescue bunny who had been in an excellent foster home, and the introductions went well. My grieving bunny is a much different rabbit since the death of her buddy -- grouchier, yet cuddlier, too -- but she has done MUCH better since the introduction of the new one. She is even getting along better with the other female.

Sounds like your situation might be similar, but with a different species. And if anybody ever tries to convince me that animals a) do not have feelings, b) do not grieve, or c) do not remember, then you know where they can go! In any event, another dog might be something for you to consider.

I send my heartfelt condolences your way. I know firsthand what a helpless feeling it is to witness a beloved pet's grief on top of your own. It is hard. I send you many comforting thoughts and the hope for a good resolution to your problem.

Take care.

p.s. My rabbits and my dog do NOT mix... The dog is willing, and would be most gentle with them, but the bunnies will have none of it.
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: Carolyn April 15, 2005, 06:54:56 AM
Sorry for your loss. I must say another dog/puppy brings life back to the house. When we lost Cheyenne (9yr olg GSD) 2 years ago, it was horrible. There was such a gloom over our house. I was on the phone 3 days later (after I convinced my hubby) I couldn't wait, I needed to fill the huge void that was left.
Carolyn
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: Carolyn April 15, 2005, 07:00:02 AM
I agree with letting them see. My horse Stroker lost his stable mate Dixie. I wasn't sure if I should take him out when they came to pick her up, I decided to leave him there. He layed by her side all morning. When I went out there he got up, looked at me (& ripped my soul apart) whinnied. He didn't carry on for long because he knew.
Carolyn
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: Beath Anim.Shelter April 15, 2005, 07:36:04 AM
Hi, all,
Sweet Gypsy just couldn't let her lifelong mate get too far away from her.
She knew her place was with him, even in death.  And, she wanted  to catch up with him.

Last night, she came in the house (first time in weeks), and lay one
the carpet and my husband sat with her.  Then, she went back outside.
She said goodbye to us.

This morning she was dead.  I have to believe she knew where she was going and why.  It's awful for us -- but, it must be sweet for Gypsy.
Thank you all,
Connie
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: jules April 15, 2005, 08:51:17 AM
Sorry for your loss.I cant even imagine.I dont know what Ill do when I lose my Spotakiss who is my first dog.Prayers go out to you.
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: Bear April 15, 2005, 10:40:34 AM
I wish it didn’t have to hurt so much.
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: Sue M. April 15, 2005, 11:08:52 AM
 :'( OMG!  I'm so sorry about Gypsy! :'(
I can't even begin to imagine how your feeling.
I hope Buck and Gypsy are frolicking in green fields together.
Again, I am sooo Sorry for you loss!
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: cupcakeorbust April 15, 2005, 12:20:10 PM
Gypsy is gorgeous!  I am so sorry for your loss.
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: jabear April 15, 2005, 12:23:48 PM
Please know that our hearts go out to you and your fur babies.  :(
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: Rufiesmom April 15, 2005, 12:27:13 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss.  I'm sure they are in a happy place together.
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: aedingto April 15, 2005, 12:27:22 PM
  :'( I'm so very sorry for your loss.  It was bad enough that Buck passed, but to have your other dog Gypsy go too must be heartbreaking, but know that Gypsy is with Buck and happy now and maybe that will help you.  I love my Snickers so much I can't even tolerate thinking about losing her.  I had a cocker spaniel for 17 years that passed away 5 years ago.  It took me 4 years to get another dog.  I will never forget Cadbury and now that I have another I worry constantly about something happening to her.  Get a new puppy or dog when you are ready and start to love again.  My prayers are with you.
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: CenturionPits April 15, 2005, 12:33:44 PM
It is definately hard to lose them after having them for so long.  We have lost a dog at 3 months one at 3years one at 15 and one was a cocker spaniel very very loving and outgoing and regretfully had to be put down at 23.  It isnt easy but know she is in a happier place now where she wont have to grieve or suffer.  Very very sorry for your loss.  I dojnt know what I would do without my little monsters running around here.
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: jeannie April 15, 2005, 12:36:56 PM
I believe this may be my first post here.  I am sorry for you loss.  I could not imagine lossing two pets in just a few days.  My prayers are with you and your family.

Rest assured that Gypsy is with her life long friend.  That is where she wanted to be.  Sometimes things don't made any sense to us but someday we will know why....

God bless you.
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: connolly April 15, 2005, 12:39:47 PM
Your story has brought tears to my eyes. I feel for your pain truely. When we lost Mac at 14yrs his little buddy Toady was never the same till the day he left for Rainbow Bridge. If you haven't read RB I'll email it to you, it always makes me cry but there is comfort in it. God bless, connolly 
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: newflvr April 15, 2005, 12:40:36 PM
 :'(  I am so incredibly sorry for your loss.  I lost two Newfs last year and had a very similar experience.  My big male went first and my female was inconsulable.  I did get another male Newf but she missed her own pal.    She died six months after the male and I hated to let her go, but I knew her best bud must have needed her more.  I still have my loving rescue and we're planning to get a new baby for him!  The one thing I know for sure is when it is my time to go, I'll be joining my two best loves! 
: Very sorry for your loss, hugs from a few Newfie pals
: pitas April 15, 2005, 12:51:59 PM
We are very sorry for you loss.   I am sure you know that your 2 pups are  playing together again over the Rainbow Bridge without any pain or sickness. 

Hugs from your Newfie friends, Klondike, Madison, Kelso and their human Mom, Anita from NJ
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: trufflelily April 15, 2005, 12:54:42 PM
My heart goes out to you.  I am so sorry for your loss.  It is hard enough to lose one--I cannot imagine the pain of losing two at one time.  Anne
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: mscheif29 April 15, 2005, 01:03:16 PM
even as I write this i am crying. I am soo sorry for your loss I have a 4 month old Rottie that I got a few weeks after my dad passed away and I just could never imagine the day I have to say goodbye to her. My thoughts are with you and know you will find peace eventually knowing that Gypsy and Buck are at Rainbow Bridge together.
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: Jen April 15, 2005, 01:03:48 PM
Can't see my reply thru the tears in my eyes.  I just feel so sad for your losses.  It is a sweet sorrow to know in your heart that they are together and watching over you and your husband, thankful of the happy lives they lived in your care.  I hope that you will carry with you all the happy memories these wonderful creatures have blessed you with.

Jen
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: pdoxsys April 15, 2005, 01:09:29 PM
Connie,

I feel your pain, I am really sorry, I can't imagine how to double the grief, I lost my baby, my heart over a month ago, and I thought that was the worst, but I guess it wasn't. so sorry..
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: Pyrinround April 15, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
Oh Connie, I am so sorry.  What a terrible week this has been for you.  If there can be any consolation for you, it is to know that Buck and Gypsy are very happy now, frolicking in the meadows of the Rainbow Bridge.  Try to focus on that.
Please accept my most sincere condolences.
 :'(

Lynda and Cruz (the Wonder-Pyr)
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: Ravensbrooke April 15, 2005, 01:12:56 PM
I am so very sorry for your loss... I have heard of circumstances like this many, many times...I know without a shadow of a doubt our babies suffer loss and go through grief as we do.  My borzoi breeder lost her 13 year old sweet girl last December, and Lance, her 9 year old boy was inconsolable.  He died within a month despite everything she could do for him.  Just quit eating and grief overtook him because there was absolutely nothing wrong with him before losing her Tessa.

I lost my sweet Irish Wolfhound male to osteosarcoma last July and even today, I am still trying to come to terms with it.  A friend of mine told me that for you to love a dog so much, you have to understand that the grief will be just as intense...I guess that's probably true...

I hope you can find some comfort in the near future of your memories and the life you shared with your two furkids...

With deepest sympathy,
Kathy Brooke
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: Jennygirl April 15, 2005, 01:15:14 PM
http://www.indigo.org/rainbowbridge_ver2.html

this is where our pets go "the rainbow bridge" Im am so sorry this has happened. Was the collie sick before this..
Again im sorry
Jenny
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: digandbark April 15, 2005, 01:30:41 PM
We are so sorry for you loss.
I can't imagine the pain of losing so much in such a short time.

Our Berner hugs to you.

Barry, Mckinley & Ted :'(
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: Terrasage April 15, 2005, 01:44:17 PM
The price of love seems awfully high sometimes.  But always worth it.  So sorry for your losses.

Tracy
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: Jennygirl April 15, 2005, 01:46:23 PM
http://www.indigo.org/rainbowbridge_ver2.html
this is where your companions are together. I am so sorry to hear this news..
I wish i could say something to ease your heart. Just know they are together..
Hugs to you
Jennygirl
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: ToddsMom April 15, 2005, 01:48:39 PM
I hope that the tears being shed world-wide give you support at this time.

There really are no words...

Take care of yourself. Grieve well. Tears heal.

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: mrs2a50 April 15, 2005, 02:02:27 PM
Your post brought tears to my eyes.  I am so very sorry for your loss of both dogs.
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: tunnelstone April 15, 2005, 02:07:36 PM
so very saddened and sorry for your loss.

tunnelstone and stanley
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: vonissk April 15, 2005, 02:22:29 PM
 :'(  I am so sorry to hear about your loss.  I have no suggestions because losing a pet really really hurts.  Not only for the people involved but also other pets.  I am not sure if getting you collie another pet right off is the answer.  If I did I would get her a puppy.  Again so sorry and give you pet a big hug for me.  Minta
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: Carolyn April 15, 2005, 02:22:40 PM
So sorry for your loss. Your pups are on the "Rainbow bridge" together, its a good place.
Carolyn
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: BabsT April 15, 2005, 02:23:39 PM
Zero and I offer our deepest sympathies  :(
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: karen8 April 15, 2005, 02:25:12 PM
I am so sorry for your loss.  Losing one pet is horrible but losing 2 within such a short time is more than I can imagine.  Please accept my condolences.

Karen
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: jabear April 15, 2005, 02:25:54 PM
Big hugs and prayers for you from Bear! We are so sorry for your loss and realize how devastated you must be right now. Hopefully your grieving wil be lessened knowing that Gyspy has a healed heart now that she is with her best friend again.
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: voodoo1432 April 15, 2005, 02:48:21 PM
Dear Connie,
Our prayers are with you. It is hard for you now, we know. But try to imagine how happy your precious dog are now that they are together again. Hang in there!
Regards,
Lily
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: CarolM. April 15, 2005, 02:48:43 PM
Hi, I am new here, but wish to send my condolences to the lady
who has lost two of her dear furbabies.  There is little to say
that will stem the tide of pain and grief you have to bear, but
know there are others who have been where you are and who
understand the pain and loss.  Will keep you in my prayers....I lost
my heart dog 6 years ago next month, a beautiful Old English
Sheepdog, and I know how hard it is.  May God give you peace
and comfort in this difficult time and know that you WILL see your
furkids again....they await you at Rainbow Bridge.  Again, I am so, so
sorry for your loss.  It is a tremendous one.
With caring, Carol
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: newfowned April 15, 2005, 02:52:31 PM
I am so sorry for your lose. My prayers are with you! This is a wonderful fourm lean on it. :'(
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: Jeanne April 15, 2005, 03:23:36 PM
So terribly sorry to hear of your double loss. I can only imagine what you must be going through, but please know that you, and Buck and his Gypsy, are in our hearts and prayers.
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: Gerty April 15, 2005, 03:32:24 PM
I'm soo sorry for you.  Having lost a bloodhound who was "my love" not more than a year ago, I can relate to your loss, but not your dog's, as my second dog, a bassett did not grieve as much as I did.  Maybe a new puppy would help.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you.  I hope your Collie bounces back soon.

 :'(

Gerty, Caper and Cheryl
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: bigdoglover April 15, 2005, 03:40:29 PM
i am so so sorry for your loss of both of your beloved pets. i too am sitting here crying my eyes out for you-i can not imagine what losing both of them must feel like for you-the loss of one was hard enough but two-i just have no words. i have told a few people how poor gypsy felt about losing buck and how strong their bond must have been-and now to read this-i am so sorry. i lost my sharpei just two weeks ago and the pain is still there even though i still have my wonderful lab. i was feeling kind of badly that my lab didn't seem all that upset on the loss of her sister but now i am glad she doesn't. i hope you find some comfort soon and as bad as you feel now it will get better. i still get weepy and esp. when i hear of another person losing their beloved furry friend but each day it gets a little better. i know these are just words right now but i hope you can find some kind of comfort for your loss in knowing that we know how hard this is and we are here to listen and support you the best we can. i hope buck and gypsy are playing with my shadow right now.
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: Marcy April 15, 2005, 04:05:34 PM
I am so very sorry to hear of your losses. I know how bad it hurts and what an empty feeling it brings. On the 12th, my tiny 6 pound Japanese Chin died, we didnt know why, but yesterday found out she had been poisoned along with my GSD and Chinese Pug, fortunately they only became slightly ill :(. I have read and re-read the Rainbow Bridge and it helps me to know thay she and your babies are running their and playing and waiting on us to join them someday.
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: raaleppo April 15, 2005, 04:07:43 PM
This most be such a frustrating time
Sounds  there was a incredible bond there
My thought are with you
Ann Oppelaar
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: luv4filas2 April 15, 2005, 04:26:28 PM
Connie, I am so sorry for your loss of both dogs.  I know they are romping together at the bridge, I believe she came to say goodbye to you also and to help ease your heart when she left.
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: tamiart April 15, 2005, 04:33:55 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. That's so sad. My friend thinks maybe an Animal Communicator and Holistic Consultant may help. Her name Betty Lewis, her email is pawsreflect@earthlink.net and her telephone number is 1-603-673-3263. My friend has used her several times with good success. Good luck to you and your Collie.

TyAnne
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: Luckybark April 15, 2005, 05:16:33 PM
I am so sorry for your loss.  I know your pain well as I lost 3 older dogs last year.  They are together now over the rainbow bridge. 

Donna Kazman
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: Sullysmoms April 15, 2005, 05:47:14 PM
I am so sorry.  What a lovely story of loyalty and the love that dogs can give and share.  Tragic, and sad... but very touching.  {{{ hugs to you and your family }}}  :'(
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: LuvmyMal April 15, 2005, 07:34:17 PM
I am so sorry! My heart goes out to you.  I will definitely keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
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: stormybc April 15, 2005, 07:42:53 PM
Connie, I am so sorry to read about your losses.  I cried when I read about ^Buck^ and then to hear of ^Gypsy^ :(...I found it too much... so I cannot even imagine what you must be feeling.   I lost my Newfy ^Beau^, almost 4 years ago and I still cannot say his name out loud without crying.  You must take the time you need to grieve.  Your heart is full of pain and must be breaking and there is nothing we can do to help you except be here for you when you need us. The two sound like they were inseparable... and now they are together again.  You have two wonderful furangels to watch over you and the rest of your family.
Sending you gentle hugs
Carrie

A dear friend of mine who supported me through my loss wrote the following....I am a bridgemom...I hope you don't mind my sharing this with you.....

                  Bridgemom

 When asked why I wore a “Rainbow” pin,
 “I’m a Bridgemom”, I explained to him.
 “Whatever does ‘a Bridgemom’ mean?
 That’s the oddest word I’ve ever seen.”
 A Bridgemom misses an angel…..with fur
 or perhaps with feathers…...a him or a her.
 A Bridgemom is one who knows the love
 Of a precious furchild lent from above.
 A Bridgemom saves bits and pieces of hair,
 Lovingly collected from the cloth of a chair….
 She may have a scrap of a little clipped nail,
 Or fluff that was saved from a big fuzzy tail.
 She remembers lullabyes softly sang,
 And around her neck a locket may hang.
 A Bridgemom will cry at the drop of a hat….
 From the smell of “this”….or the sound of “that”.
 Maybe a blankie or a coat of red
 Lays every night at the foot of her bed.
 She has pictures on most every wall…..
 And a precious, well-used tennis ball.
 She may tend a grave or hug an urn…
 And glimpse her angel at every turn.
 A Bridgemom remembers each little bark,
 Each and every walk in the park.
 She remembers a piggy who uttered a purr
 Each time his Mom touched his silky fur.
 The chirp of a bird…each tiny “mew”,
 The first time they met….she remembers that, too.
 Bridgemoms dry each others tears…..
 Embrace their hopes and calm their fears.
 Every Bridgemom bears a scar on her heart…
 The piece that’s missing….it covers that part.
 With an aching heart she remembers the day
 When her forever baby went away……..
 Whether bird or dog or lizard or cat……
 Oh yes, every Bridgemom remembers that……..
 For every Bridgemom,
 ‘Mo’s Mom Carol
 August 21, 2002
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: ARCH10 April 15, 2005, 07:47:40 PM
I know how you feel I lost A cat that I had for four years, we were gone two days % kid next door was taking care of things including feeding & watering Dog & Cat & when we got back tabby our beloved cat was missing we never found her. it was like losing a child. I morned for about 6 months Is this normal   ARCH 10
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: ARCH10 April 15, 2005, 07:50:01 PM
I know how you feel I lost A cat that I had for four years, we were gone two days % kid next door was taking care of things including feeding & watering Dog & Cat & when we got back tabby our beloved cat was missing we never found her. it was like losing a child. I morned for about 6 months Is this normal   ARCH 10
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: mastiffwanter April 15, 2005, 08:03:10 PM
 I am so sorry for your loss and I hope that you find peace as soon as possible, even if that means finding a new dog to help you get through the grieving and hopefully bring some life back into your life. Good Luck! Let us know if you need anything. They are in a better place. Take Care
Staci :-\
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: Wildlonewolf April 15, 2005, 08:42:12 PM
Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.
 
All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... 

Author unknown...
 
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: wolfloneshadow April 15, 2005, 08:45:48 PM


My deepest sympathies go to you and your husband for your losses.  Both dogs are in a far better place now where nothing can hurt them.  I know they will be in your hearts forever. I'll say a prayer for them both tonight.

Bev
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: amajac April 15, 2005, 09:32:51 PM
Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers.

Cheryl and her firkids, Saint Austin, Mr. Spock, Smokey, Warlock and Mouse
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: britt_cllns April 15, 2005, 09:42:10 PM
This is the saddest and yet the most remarkable thing.  If only people loved the way animals do...our world would be so different.  My prayers and best wishes to you and your family at this difficult time. :(
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: DreamTimeNewfs April 15, 2005, 09:55:42 PM
You are in my thoughts and prayers. :'(
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: plotthound April 15, 2005, 10:26:25 PM
I had 2 rotties, [Tonda & Rosie->] one a part dobie that was a rescue and attached herself to Tonda. When Tonda died Rosie was in pain for the longest time. They are now in heaven together ever since Rosie's hips gave out on her. The night Rosie was put down, I had had a dream of them playing with my other 2dogs that I remember nicely from my childhood.....
Love,
Ashley
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: Droolyyrs April 15, 2005, 11:57:02 PM
 :-[Godpseed to both Buck and Gypsy... know that you will meet them at the Rainbow Bridge someday...I have lost 2 newfs and my sammie in the last 3 years...it is never easy.
Newfie Kisses to all!
Tara
Orion (Nealla's Black Thunder Orion)
Murtaugh (Blackwatch's Blackhawk Sirius)

Blackbeard's Black Thunder (gone to the brdge)
Boomer the 2nd newf rescue (gone to the bridge)
Justin the sammie that thought he was a newf (gone to the bridge)
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: bernie April 16, 2005, 03:52:49 AM
I really feel for you ,you must be heartbroken but a puppy would not be a bad thing.
Give it some time but think about it.
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: jim April 16, 2005, 06:57:59 AM
my deepest condolences, memories fade but love is everlasting.
may they be blessed to be together. be strong in this hard time.
jim n bud
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: nandoz777 April 16, 2005, 09:34:41 AM
I am so sorry to hear about your losses. I know that this is after the fact but maybe it will help you or another person reading this.

Our Great Pyernees, died of a stomach mass in the fall and we were heartbroken, he was only 7 and had been in great health. We watched him die over about 6 weeks. His best friend was our Rottie who immediately began grieving for him and we feared losing her as well. A friend advised us to look on Petfinder.com and see if we could locate a new companion for her right away. At first we thought that this was disrespectful of Bear and realized that he would not want her to suffer.

My husband took her down with him to meet the one that we selected and they sniffed and checked each other out and she climbed into the van, looked over her shoulder at him as if to say "well are you coming with me?" and he hopped in. My husband had to go do the paperwork and make the journey home. It pulled her out of it and this has really helped us all.

We still miss Bear, and our first dog, and know that they are together and looking down on us. We rescued our Walker Coonhound, nothing like my Bear. He had been in the shelter for 28 days after he and his sister, both 2.5, were given away due to family health issues. Our Rottie had lost her best friend. They are very good for each other and a new bond has developed between them.

The pain lessend but never goes totally away, at least for us. Every time I open up a book or a box and find a Bear hear, my heart smiles.
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: Demi April 16, 2005, 10:16:05 AM
Please accept my heartfelt sympathy.  I too lost my Shelite (Hobie) on Christmas day, 1999.  I couldn't be consoled for quite sometime.  He was a major part of my family.  I have moved on and now have other canine and feline "kids".  There isn't a day goes by that my thoughts once again turn to my beloved Hobie.

Please hang in there, and know that our prayers are with you.  One day you will see your sweet babies at the Rainbow Bridge.

God Bless,
Demi
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: Button April 16, 2005, 05:05:09 PM
Sorry to hear of your loss. I know the feeling. My dog had puppies March 29 and there were 13 live puppies and 1 still born. After 4 days all the pups died. At the moment I'm still waiting on lab work to come back to see what the problem was.
Well hopefully your dogs are together and happy running and playing in green pastures.
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: mgcsold April 16, 2005, 06:45:27 PM
 :( :( I am so sorry about what you and your family have gone through...I have lost dogs in the past and I know it is bittersweet... sometimes it is better for them to go...but it doesn't make it any easier...I am truley sorry again...my prayers are with you...

remember you now have two angles up there on your side... :) :)

Christi
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: GR8DAME April 16, 2005, 07:40:28 PM
My heart grieves for you and your two fur babies. You gave them the best life possible while they were here and they now wait in a better place for you.
Stella
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: brees34488 April 17, 2005, 09:24:18 AM
here is a message my dog left for me,hope this helps you out.Sorry about your loss..I got to the gate of heaven today,
after we said goodbye
I began to miss you terribly,
because I heard you cry.
Suddenly there was an angel,
and she asked me to enter heaven's gate.
I asked her if I could stay right outside
for someone who would be late.
The angel said I could stay right here
and wait for you to come,
because heaven just wouldn't be heaven
if I went in alone.
So I'll wait right here,
you take your time,
but keep me in your heart,
because heaven just wouldn't be heaven
without you to warm my heart...
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: Saljen April 17, 2005, 04:06:01 PM
I am so sorry for the loss of both your beloved dogs, Buck and Gypsy. I cannot imagine what you are going thru to have lost them both right after each other. We had to put our dear family little girl Maddie down and within a year our sweet rescued girl Luna died of heart failure in my arms (she had a heart condition). Losing both so close was so very hard, so my heart completely goes out to you and your family.

My advice to you is, do not hold back on any of your grief. I think sometimes we feel as tho we shouldn't grieve so thoroughly over our pets. Either that or friends or family members who don't understand can make us feel that way. Nevermind any thoughts you have or suggestions from others that you should 'get over it.' I have lost many loved ones, human and animal, and I have grieved the hardest over my pets. We are closer to them than we will be to most people we know. We are with them everyday, sometimes all day long, and they love us so thoroughly and unconditionall y that it makes the loss even harder. So take your time, and grieve as much as you need to. And when you're ready, I would suggest getting a new pup. Let that dog bond to you, then in a year or two, get another one. I, like some others on here, feel it is vital to have more than one dog in the house at all times as well. They truly need the canine companionship as well, as you have seen for yourself. Then with the second dog, make sure you take it out and have time just for the two of you so it bonds with you as well and not just the other dog. This will also help.

My great grandmother died of tuburculosis (sp?) in the 60s. She had been quaranteened for some time before her death. The morning she died, they woke her husband and told him that she was gone. They made Daddy Drew breakfast, but he didn't touch a thing, and just sat there. Then he said he was going to go lay down for awhile. This man, who was in perfectly good help, laid back on his bed, stretched his arms out wide, and died. It is amazing what the power of love can do, and how it can spare us the pain of being without the ones we love. Buck and Gypsy are together forever now, probably running thru fields, chasing squirrels and taking naps in the sun. =)
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: neomum April 17, 2005, 08:00:46 PM
OH MY GOSH!!! that is such tragic news!! Our heart goes out 2 u ...Poor Gypsy she must have been beside herself and was grieving with such sadness..at least her and Buck are together now....and forever!! I bet u they are having a WOW of a time....@ lose both of your babies at once....I just couldnt imagine it...keep your chin up!!
Our Thoughts Are With You....
Bec and my many furry loved ones
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: Harrigon April 18, 2005, 06:57:13 AM
A few years ago, when I was in Georgia and My neighbor, Mr. Harris was still around.... He had a little grey female kitten he called Lucky. I had a little black chow named Baboo. Baboo and Lucky were the best of friends, and spent all of their time playing together. One day Baboo decided to wander off-(he loved the kids in the houses behind us)- and never came back. I searched everywhere for months and never found him. One of the hardest things was trying to comfort Lucky. she would come in the house and search every room calling for Baboo, and she did this over and over for several days. She was never the same after that. This is something I have learned about Cats over the years... Once they lose their best friend, they will never have another. they will have friends and family, but they won't play with them or other cat things... I know that dogs feel loss deeply, all I can tell you is to sit with her. just sit and talk to her. Sometimes they can't get passed the grief.  I have a very large baby now, Named Mobey. He is a chow/lab mix. He loves cats... can't get enough of them, and he has adopted three strays from the neighborhood. They absolutely adore and worship him as their hero because he protects them from evil dogs and mean cats. He worries if he can't find them before bedtime. Maybe if your girl starts to feel better, you might think about getting her a kitten to take care of. A new baby seems to bring out the joy in their hearts. I am sorry for your great loss.  :-*
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: dohertyswissy April 18, 2005, 12:29:54 PM
 :'(  I'm so sorry to hear of your losses.  Hopefully, you can find some comfort in the fact that Buck and Gypsy are romping around together waiting to see you again.  Ranger (my Swissy) and I are sending you hugs and will keep you in our thoughts.

Heather & Ranger
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: TMowner April 19, 2005, 12:58:30 PM
Although I am not an active person on this list I am terribly sorry for your loss, we have lost a shep x collie (Cleo) in late Oct last year from a seizure and then had to euthainze our 15 year old Tibetan Mastiff Jessie...Cleo and Jessie had been life long buddies since we brough Jessie home at the age of two and after Cleo passed away Jessie withered away.

Time will lessen the pain, but often it will only take a kind word or an old photograph to make you shed more tears.  Take comfort in knowing that you and anyone that actually feels emotion when an animal passes away are special spirits and that you will again one day be able to comb their wonderful fur and have them lick your face with gladness at seeing you.

Although we still have (3) Tibetan Mastiffs I still mourn the loss of both dogs and will continue to do so until I meet them both again.  HUGS....
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: KERHAVEN April 21, 2005, 01:53:20 PM
I just joined this site..I am a collie breeder. I live in Canada.
I  was particularly "touched" and became teary eyed as I read of your collie Gypsy. Sometimes our chums bond very strongly with one another...I too have a collie  named Gypsy..almost two years ago, I recieved a phone call telling me one of my collies was in a very "bad" way. The collie was Gypsy's litter brother Dino. I made arrangments to have him returned to me..the people who had him, rather then notifying me they had decided to not keep Dino..simply handed him off to strangers! Fortunately for Dino..the 'strangers' were well meaning and did TRY to look after him, but they two fell on "bad times" and they had to give him up. Another lady who had for over a year (prior to his being given away by the people I THOUGHT still had him) had observed the long dreadful months (nearly two years actually) of neglect and horrible loneliness that the big gentle collie had endured (unbeknown to ME) The 'strangers' he had been given too we about to give him to a farm home. This lady (THANK GOD) intervened. She managed to find out I was his breeder and she got in touch with ME!!
Dino returned..he was in dreadful shape..dirty and matted,nearly crippled with arthritis (he was only 7 1/2 years old at the time), the kind strangers who had him didn't know how to groom the mats out and though they tried brushing him..they only managed to address the surface of his coat..not all the way to the skin. Plus they were old and just didn't have the strength to bath him nor could they afford a groomer apparently.
Gypsy remembered Dino instantly though she had not seen him in over 2 years.
Dino remembered her and ME :)
I know Gypsy is more bonded to ME then she is to Dino (thank GOD) and he is more bonded to me then to his sister..but they do care deeply for each other as well. 
When the day comes, and I must say "farewell" to one of them..I will make sure the other has a chance to have closure.  I know whichever one is left behind..will grieve but will overcome the grief..still it will be hard, on both of us.
Many years ago, I knew a pair of GSDs who were bonded like your sweet Gypsy and dear Buck. When her mate was killed by a car..right in front of her eyes..the female, even though she 'knew' what happened grieved so deeply she just gave up. Like your Gypsy she would not eat..but she did drink..she howled piteoulsy day after day...finally one week later, she joined her mate. They found her in the kitchen..head across her paws lying in the same 'spot' that had been HIS in life.
Dogs as we know are capable of GREAT love and loyalty, few humans have this capacity for love..but SOME do.
I am so sorry..this is so very hard on you..to lose one chum is heart breaking..to lose two within days of each other..I can't even imagine how much sorrow this has caused.    Darlene :'(
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: Jaimie April 26, 2005, 08:45:03 PM
So sorry for your loss.  My thoughts are with you.
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: Beath Anim.Shelter April 27, 2005, 06:40:44 AM
Hi, all,
Thanks, again, everyone.  What an outpouring of compasson!  I've re-read
them, and they are comforting.  

Our dogs' lifespan is shorter than ours (usually).
Over the years,  we have to say goodbye to several good friends .

My family founded (and still runs) a HUGE NO-KILL Shelter in Dillwyn, VA.
Mom has 116 dogs and about 40 cats right now.  They are very very
active in placing dogs.  My Mom feels very deeply whenever they lose a dog or cat.  Each one is precious to her.

NOTE:  Beath Animal Shelter serves a large region.  They do not transport, take rescues from out of state, etc.  With 116 dogs, they are busy enough!

But, at my home in Front Royal, VA, I foster a couple at a time, and  work with other rescues.  

This week I'll travel to Beath Anim. Shelter (about 2 hrs) and bring back a foster dog.  A nice cattle dog.  I'll clean her up, work with her, and look for a good home for her.  That's the best therapy I can imagine!

I have room for one more foster dog.  I only foster 2 at a time.  
I placed my last foster dog before my big dogs became ill.
Helping a homeless dog find a permanent home is very satisfying.
Somewhere along the way, one (or more) of them will find their
permanent home here with us.
Connie
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: Bear April 27, 2005, 10:53:56 PM
What an incredible ordeal! I'm glad you making it thru!
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: puisheb May 03, 2005, 07:55:55 PM
I am very sorry to hear of your loss.  My heart and prayers are with you.  Know that they are with you in spirit and that the puppies and dogs in your future will bring you a great joy once again. 

Emily
Aspen, Leeza, and Scooter
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: GYPSY JAZMINE May 03, 2005, 10:58:46 PM
Please accept my most sincere & heartfelt condolences on the loss of your fur babies...In our back yard we have a "critter graveyard' where lies 2 of our guinea pigs & a kitten that didn't have a chance from her start...One day all 12 of our fur babies that are still with us will lie beneath that majestic old tree that shades their final resting place...My favorite memorial in their "garden" is a stone that reads "Those who we hold in our arms for a little while will then live in our hearts forever"...I think that says it all...Wouldn't it be grand if they could only live as long as we?
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: Malishiku May 11, 2005, 02:30:11 AM
I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. I'm glad though that your getting through it, it's not always easy...actuall y...it's never easy to lose a beloved member or members of the family. At least those two are still being well-taken care of and have each other, and probably lots of others too, to look after.

I've had many animals (not too mention humans as well) pass away (mostly rodents and birds) but the ones that mattered the very most was my cat, Jake, and my rabbit, Adonolas (who died just last Tuesday, May 3rd  :'( ). So I can imagine what you must be going through. For me, at least, it does get to be more "managable" as the days, weeks and months dreer on. Of course, it really helps though when you have somebody who needs you. I think it's great what you're doing helping out the canines that need a home. Who knows...maybe one might end up adopting you  ;D. Then your heart will be stolen away once again, tis the cycle of the circle of life, that's what I've learned.

I wish you well and will keep you and your two beloved pals in prayer.

Take care,

=(^ - ^)= Silverstorm
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: tanimara May 12, 2005, 12:54:35 PM
Connie,

I just now read this.  It brought tears to my eyes.  I wont bother you with stories similar to yours of my own.  Just know that my prayers are with you and I totally understand.  Her dedication to Buck was so touching.  Bless your heart.

Prayers on the wind for you,
Jackie
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: ulfie56 May 12, 2005, 08:31:31 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss and for Gypsy's. I had a similar situation saveral years ago. I tried everything. After almost two weeks of Kiki not eating my vet told me to go (as in now...) and get another dog. I wanted to wait but went out that day to a rescue and brought Casey home. After the first two days I was ready to take her back. Kiki was throwing up and rolling in it, you name it. My husbad said to give it at least a week. I didn't need to - by day four all was OK. Anyway, just a thought.
 
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: WolfiesDad May 22, 2005, 03:49:42 AM
 :'(  I am so sorry for all of your loss.....and you know that deep in your heart they are young and frolicing in everything they can get their paws into, and still be shiny and clean.  I don't know if you have ever tried this...but it worked for me when my mom had to put down Stinker...our "party poodle"....I watched "All Dogs go To heaven".
It made me realize that the more love you give to them the more they will be even stronger in your heart when they are gone.  Wolfie and I send our prayers and thoughts to you and your family.  :(
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: kildeskennel May 22, 2005, 04:11:27 AM
I agree toally,and while this may be off the subject, I will say it anyway..I am in the middle of placing 13 Kuvasz pups, I have 8 females and 5 males.  All five males were placed with deposits quickly, and 2 females, I just recieved an email from the gentleman and his wife who paid a deposit stating they really " were not ready to take him , althogh we want to terribly, our lives right now are so busy and we just can;t give the time to him we know he needs.  We also know you have the right to keep our deposit and that is up to you, but we know in the right circumstances we would make excellent Kuv parents"  I am new to breeding but take great pride in my Kuv kids, Iknow they are worth the time and I know they are excellent, but how can you turn your back on your babies?  I could not keep this man;s deposit, he recognized before he came to get his pup that it was not the right time, and I am returning his deposit.  I realize that normally deposits are non refundable but I would rather place a pup in asure home than risk that pups emotional distress when he comes back t me with owners that could not or were not ready to take on the responsibility of him/her.  Despite many others opinions that they forfeit the money already paid, I feel that they were smart enough to admit they were not ready and that not only saved my pup but saved me and them a load of heartache.  Wouldn't you do the same?
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: Beath Anim.Shelter June 05, 2005, 09:17:08 AM

Thank you, more than I can express.
I'm touched by the outpouring of caring people.  And, by your own
experiences with losing a dear one.

While my 2 dogs were struggling, I was determined to think ONLY
of what they needed -- no personal indulgences for myself - they could read me like a book! 

Now they are gone, and they knew they were loved.  They watched me, over the years, as I  learned to listen to them.  And, yes, I'm sure I still missed some of their requests.  But, they were both patient and forgiving with me...

My work with Mom's NO KILL Shelter (Beath Animla Shelter, Dillwyn VA) will give me more chances to learn from other precious animals -- and help them find their true home.

Thanks, again, for being so moved by their experience, to conact me.
Maybe that's another of Buck and Gypsy's lessons -- keep connecting with people like you!
Connie
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: osirisdobermans July 14, 2005, 08:50:14 PM
I am soooooo soooo sorry for your loss. Your dogs were great dogs they deserved to be happy together... They are happy and will always love you in doggy heaven.. Im so sorry you have to go through this 2 x's One time is bad enough... in time things will heal...
Hope you can feel better knowing your dogs are happy and together in a better place watching over thoer beloved momma!

Jicole Martinez

Osiris Dobermans
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: stbernard11 July 15, 2005, 11:18:09 AM
I am so sorry for your loss these guys are never here long enough.
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: smohr August 17, 2005, 09:20:54 AM
I am so sorry for the loss of both your beloved companions.  I am praying for and thinking of you each moment I think of my Lady girl; I lost her last week and know the feelings you must have.  To have both gone is so incredibly sad.  I'm sorry...
SMOR