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Retrievers => Golden Retriever Discussions => : nickerbokker May 19, 2005, 08:50:30 PM
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well. it has finally happened. mr wangus now humps his big brother. i was upset when i saw him thinking about it, but when he jumped up there and CODY LET HIM I WAS PISSED!
how many of your male dogs get it on? is it common, or is it because we live in hollywood? i dunno ::)
all i know is that mr angus's lipstick is out all the time...even when he is taking a poop, and its really gross! i wanna chop it off....do you think thats mean? lol
seriously though...why does cody take it? is that normal? i dont like it, thats for sure.
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That is sooo funny! I know what you mean, though. Leo is always showing me his lipstick and I have three kids who think it's hilarious! It makes for uncomfortable situations when strangers stop to pet him and out pops mr. happy! My husband tried telling him that it was tiney thinking he would give him a complex about it and maybe he would stop. No luck. But Leo is fixed and he doesn't hump on anything, so I don't know what to tell you there, but I feel your pain about the lipstick!
Chow, Nat
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We have a little bit of a lipstick problem at our house too - it is the beagle. Funny thing is he has decided that his girlfriend is the cat - and the little slut doesn't even run away or slap him or anything - we haven't been able to get him fixed because of the heart worm issue - hopefully we are close to the end of that though - he is marking everything in the house to top it all off!!!! Hopefully neutering will curtail that - hopefully..... oh please let it help.......say prayers for me - and him!!!! :-\
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Well I have yet to see Finny in an excited state! I won't be sad if that never happens! He doesn't hump either, but my girls do. They hump eachother, they hump the cat, they hump eachother some more. The cat humping is funny!
It's been so many years since I've had a male dog I had forgotten about that, though my last one didn't do it very often at all.
Vicki
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Seeing the lipstick doesn't gross me out unless his legs are really spread out but humping is soooooo out in our home. Bear just recently picked up the habit from one of his 4 legged friends- a standard poodle whose mom doesn't mind htat he does it all the time. She thinks it is cute but I hate it and do punish Bear when he does it. At a playdate meeting with a few other Newfs a few weeks ago the other 2 dogs did it to Bear, so we gave in and let him join in because we were the only ones saying no. Now that we are back home and heard from the dog whisperer that it is not acceptable behavior- we're confident that not allowing it is the right thing to do. On a side note- the caressing that leads up to it always is so cute...lip kisses, ear kisses, paws touching the shoulder and then bam! He ruins the cute moment every time.
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LOL, bam, you're damn right!
humping is just swell....
and i dont let them do it either....cody has always gotten in trouble for it, and he isn't allowed to lick himself either....BUT, when someone new comes over (the most embarrassing for mom of course), cody just cant control himself. the only way i can get him to stop is to drag him to his corner and make him face the wall...even then he humps the floor! but angus isn't allowed to do it either....
YUCK....
and for a side note, the lipstick cracks me up! what grosses me out is that its already the size of my leg...angus is a little dirk diggler! the only time i REALLY cant stand it is when he is pooping and its limp and swinging around, its like a worm....and the other time is when i am laying in bed and he comes and sticks it over my head.....but we corrected that one already...and he wasn't happy about it!, believe me LOL
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I agree with jabear, in or house it is a definite no-no. And God help the furry creature that would try and hump Raven...She makes Cujo look comotose if the boys even sniff her behind.
Stella
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I was told that non sexual (male on male or female on female, or neutered male) humping is the dogs attempt to show dominance. Since Cody takes it, it is likely he doesn't mind not being top dog. I would just keep an eye on it and stop it as soon or before it happens from now on.
My male will hump my female randomly but I can see it coming now. He will start playing rough, trying to turn her around, and his back will scrunch up. If I just tell him 'No' in a stern voice and distract them both with a toy or treat or ball, the humping is over until he gets the notion to do it again later.
He doesn't do it as much now that I have learned to watch for it and stop it before he can't control himself.
Good luck.
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glad i have girls-the lipstick thing is gross. but, my lab brandy will hump almost anything-she is 10 years old and humps pillows. i can not have a pillow on the beds or she does it-she takes the cushions off the couch to hump them! she used to try and hump my sharpei before she crossed the bridge but the psi would have none of that! i have tried correcting this beahvior with no luck-she just wants dominance over all pillows in the house!
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My golden mix ONLY humps other male dogs - or small children. The kids that come play with him say, "Look! He's hugging me." How embarrassing! I don't dare tell them the truth so I just play along. All of my dogs are neutered now so I only get the little lipstick every once in a while, but before my aussie was neutered, the whole she-bang came out and I couldn't believe how big it was!! Every dog I ever had growing up was neutered ASAP so that was my first encounter with a full-on you-know-what. Let me tell you, it nearly lifted him off the ground!! I just yelled at him, "Oh my GOD!! Put that away!!" I don't know what even brought it on as we didn't have any female dogs around at that time and everyone else was "fixed".
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Galahad started to hump our 4 year old daughter the very first day he was here, the breeder suggested it was something in our house because he had never done that there lol.... Anyway, we do correct him, and he is getting better. The lipstick doesnt gross me out, I guess I have always had male dogs and have grown used to the sight ;D But Galahad is doing what Angus is, when he is pooping he is having it hanging all over the place and that isnt a pretty sight. My husband asked me if I thought pooping turned him on since it always comes out during that. I certainly hope not... that would make me really concerned lol...
Marit
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I've only seen it ouncing around when Bear has had the runs. It was so disgusting. I was embarrassed to because I thought it made him look like a wierdo...and then I wondered if it hurt. You know, its hanging out, bouncing around....eugh- sick! Hopefully he'll one day realize you don't do that to anything especially not in public with enough correction. BTW, I do feel sorry for those of you with compulsive humpers...you poor fur parents.
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Yeah, no fun in public when "gurkin" is hanging out. We went to the park the other day, and Jennifer played at the playground, I sat there with her, with Hera and Galahad, and two children came up to me and pointed at Galahad and asked "what is that?" I said ohhhh he is an Old Engligh Mastiff, its okay to pet him.......... They looked at me and said nooooo "THAT!!" and I looked and saw his entire lipstick and I so wanted to pour my bottle of water over him. The kids mom came and almost looked at me as if I was a perv. it was so embarrasing to have to excuse my puppy for being naughty in public.
Marit
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I agree with jabear, in or house it is a definite no-no. And God help the furry creature that would try and hump Raven...She makes Cujo look comotose if the boys even sniff her behind.
Stella
Greta has always been this way, too. She will not tolerate any dogs messing with her hindquarters. There was a one time when a big male dog was being really dominant at an off-leash park and he was going to force himself on her, but I could see it would turn into a full blown fight if I didn't intervene. Some of it, I think, has to do with the discomfort in her hind legs...both cruciate and hip.
I think it's good to teach them not to do that, because it is also a dominance issue...or so I'm told it can be. But, it is also pretty annoying to go to someone's house for a visit and their dog is obsessed with humping other dogs. No one can play and have fun. ;D
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I agree with jabear, in or house it is a definite no-no. And God help the furry creature that would try and hump Raven...She makes Cujo look comotose if the boys even sniff her behind.
Stella
Greta has always been this way, too. She will not tolerate any dogs messing with her hindquarters. There was a one time when a big male dog was being really dominant at an off-leash park and he was going to force himself on her, but I could see it would turn into a full blown fight if I didn't intervene. Some of it, I think, has to do with the discomfort in her hind legs...both cruciate and hip.
I think it's good to teach them not to do that, because it is also a dominance issue...or so I'm told it can be. But, it is also pretty annoying to go to someone's house for a visit and their dog is obsessed with humping other dogs. No one can play and have fun. ;D
Besides that, when you have furkids the size of ours, it can be really intimidating if they start that nonsense with people, especially visitors. What do you do ...tell them "It's ok, he'll be done in a minute."?
Stella
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LOL Stella! I have always been told that it is a dominance issue aswell, just the same we stop it when it happens too. The only time that Hutch humps is when we say that we are going to the park. He tries desperatley to hump Abbey. Then the entire ride to the dog park he sticks his lipstick out as far as it can go. He is my first male dog, so it is taking me alot of time to get used to it. We have nicknamed it Mabeline, like the makeup.
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We have nicknamed it Mabeline, like the makeup.
OK, I am a newbie here, but I just had to de-lurk for a moment to say that is the funniest thing I have ever heard.
We don't have to deal with the lipstick too often in my house, but I might have to steal that nickname... ;D
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I agree with jabear, in or house it is a definite no-no. And God help the furry creature that would try and hump Raven...She makes Cujo look comotose if the boys even sniff her behind.
Stella
Greta has always been this way, too. She will not tolerate any dogs messing with her hindquarters. There was a one time when a big male dog was being really dominant at an off-leash park and he was going to force himself on her, but I could see it would turn into a full blown fight if I didn't intervene. Some of it, I think, has to do with the discomfort in her hind legs...both cruciate and hip.
I think it's good to teach them not to do that, because it is also a dominance issue...or so I'm told it can be. But, it is also pretty annoying to go to someone's house for a visit and their dog is obsessed with humping other dogs. No one can play and have fun. ;D
Besides that, when you have furkids the size of ours, it can be really intimidating if they start that nonsense with people, especially visitors. What do you do ...tell them "It's ok, he'll be done in a minute."?
Stella
Fortunately, they have never done that to people. Only Lou tries humping and he is definitely not the alpha around here. He would be too timid to hump a Homo sapien leg. He respects people...He's mostly just a food snatcher. ;D
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My Earnest is funny, he's got a happy-go-lucky Lab personality, but with an undercurrent of alpha Dane lurking behind it. Every now and then he'll get snarly faced over another dog trying to hump him, or over another dog objecting to it. When we go out with our Lab friends he doesn't even think about it- but when we're somewhere like the dog park it's a different story, occasionally he struts and postures a little, just to see what he can get away with. He responds to "leave it" but my problem is the people with overly submissive dogs who beg him to do it! A friend of mine has a female like that, both boys and girls hump Montana, she'll back up underneath another dog! We're practicing with her, but it does not make for a nice outing, we have to keep them on leashes and watch every step or they start up again! Every now and then a dog like that (extremely submissive) causes a bunch of humping and tension at the dog park, it seems to trigger something in the other dogs. (BTW, Earnest was fixed really young, his humping is definitely pack behavior and not sex,I'v probably only seen lipstick once or twice in all of his 2 1/2 years!)
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Greek 4 said it best - humping is not sexual or some perverted game - it is all about dominance and establishing hierarchy in a pack. I never realized there were so many who were viewing this as human behavior - not thinking like a dog :)
It has nothing to do with whether a dog is fixed or not - fixed dogs, both male and female, mount others for dominance all the time. When bringing a new dog home, it will be especially common as they sort out where each other ranks in the home. I would never interfere with this in the home - it is critical that they sort out who is leader in the pack and the worst situation that can arise is ambiguity about it - that causes friction and in some cases even fights. When stopping it, you are saying "no, its not you" - when maybe it should be and would be. They need to sort it out.
Outside the home is another story - I used to be of the mindset that my dog had to learn to defend himself and learn how to "get out of it". Now I simply don't let another dog mount mine, as it is a "bully" tactic - the big dogs will always get challenged and mounted by others because they are so big - it is the mindset of "well, he's huge, so if I can dominate him, then I am the king". Don't allow that stuff.
My golden is fierce about getting dominated - when dogs walk up to her to mount her, she'll scream at them hard if they dare. My other dog, a Berner however, plays everyday with her best friend, a girl, who loves to hump her occasionally during the play to announce "I won - I'm dominant"
In the ends, its a fundamental pack behavior.
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Lady and Grace do a little humping number on each other once in a while. that's all wrong since they aren't boys. but yeah...it's all about dominating the other dog.
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LMAO god this is soo funny. OK as for the lipstick Dilbert doesn't have it out as often since he got neuterd. ( my brother also calls it pink pencil lol ewww i know) anyway for the humping thing Harley and Dilbert only do that to each other when they are playing, like Harley will hump Dilbert to get the rope toy ect. They never hump other dogs, and if another dog trys to hump Harley, they get told off pretty quick. Shew will not allow it, but that is because we taught her not to lwt other dogs do that to her. ( the people that live in the downstairs of out house, there dog is not fixed, and he is always trying to hump her and well the lipstick is out and he has gotten her with well... she got a bath that day ewwww) So I feel bad for him cuz now I don't let them play with him anymore cus all her wants to do is hump, and that is not fair to my dogs, it stress' Harley out, and she gets really mad at him.
Or it could just be me, not wanting them near him cus he full attenion most of the time and it's gross. For a basset hound well as said before he's quite manly.
Is it mean of me to not want to let my dogs near him? He's a great dog, super sweet but.... the humping....
Nina
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Ok, what's the best way to discourage this.. Bava, our little 4-month old seems to have it out all the time. And does hump a lot. We tell him no, put that back in your pocket when he does. Kid's these days, what are you gonna do with them? ???
edit: maybe all the time is a bit of an exageration :) He just seems to get excited a bit more than we'd like .
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Ok, what's the best way to discourage this.. Bava, our little 4-month old seems to have it out all the time. And does hump a lot. We tell him no, put that back in your pocket when he does. Kid's these days, what are you gonna do with them? ???
Lady and Grace kinda just quit doing it. so I'm at a loss. May want to ask your vet.
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Ok, what's the best way to discourage this.. Bava, our little 4-month old seems to have it out all the time. And does hump a lot. We tell him no, put that back in your pocket when he does. Kid's these days, what are you gonna do with them? ???
edit: maybe all the time is a bit of an exageration :)Â He just seems to get excited a bit more than we'd like .
Dilbert had it out a lot at that age and we got him neutered at about 5 months, I didn't want him to start marking, and now it is hardly ever out.
Nina
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Mojo & Faust were neutered later(like around 18months) and they were always trying to hump each other. Mojo started it I believe, he always had a VERY dominant personality. Since he's the oldest, he taught everyone else bad manners. :P I'll allow them to mount each other, but try and stop them with other dogs. The reason being that you never know how another dog is going to react and its bullying behavior. One thing to establish rank with their pack mates.. but don't need to do it with every new dog. I'm the alpha and I say so. :D
Tenchi never did it until he was overcome by his love for a certain little Hobo. ;) Poor Hobo barely realized it because Tenchi's bits are like 18 inches higher than Hobo's back! ROFLMAO How I teach them to not do it, is to put them on a downstay to cool their jets. lol They might need a few reminders, but they get the picture.
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And Hobo never did it till Tenchi molested him! I blame Mojo for all the humping at my house!
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I just had to get in on this humping conversation!!!
Zoot doesn't hump any other dogs but sometimes he will have what I call a "hump-attack". He suddenly with no warning just goes crazy humping nothing at all, and it looks like he can't control himself, he is just standing there doing the thrusting action and he looks at me like"what's happening???"!!! After about 10 seconds he stops and checks out his weewee to make sure everything is ok and then all is back to normal. It is the strangest thing. If he were to hump other dogs I would be very upset. I think it might have happened when he was younger but I acted very disappointed and he never did it again. Nigel didn't ever hump anything until after he was neutered and I put a stop to that quick. Humping is not allowed in my house. I am very disturbed by it! My boyfriend's little terrier tries to hump EVERYTHING THAT MOVES and I just can't stand it. Maybe it is just dogs being dogs, but I don't care! I am grossed out by the ol' red rocket. No thank you! :D ;)
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Ewwwww........ I never see the "Lipstick" when they're humping. I freak when Sanity's comes out, I yell and throw things. I've never seen Hobo's.