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mama23+pyrs2

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A Good Reminder for Women
« on: May 18, 2007, 04:33:56 am »
I got this email a long time ago, and again today.  I think it's a good one to re-read and keep in mind in this crazy world.


A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around specifically to cut clothing.

They also look for women on their cell phone , searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

Men are most likely to attack & rape in the early morning, between 5:00a.m. and 8:30a.m.

The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public restrooms.

The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to another location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.

Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming.

These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: "I can't believe it is so cold out here", "we're in for a bad winter." Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up; you lose appeal as a target.

If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell STOP or STAY BACK! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yell I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm (between the elbow and armpit) OR in the upper inner thigh VERY, VERY HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts.

After the initial hit, always GO for the GROIN. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he's out of there.

When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible!. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts!!! You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF, repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF! Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.

A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
- Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.


- If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.


- Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.) - ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)

If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN, preferably in a zig -zag pattern!

As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby's cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night.

Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby ---- This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.


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Re: A Good Reminder for Women
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2007, 05:11:52 am »
Thankyou for sharing that ! I recently had a group of teenage boys follow me thru WalMart , asking me really weird/stupid questions . I told an employee about them , they made them leave , and when I started out to my car ( it was after 9 pm ) they were out there waiting ... I had to call my husband to come get me  :-\

What really scares me is someone trying to break into my house . I have no idea how I could possibly get all my kids and get out in time .... So I keep my hubby's rifle in our closet . Good luck to whoever dares to enter my home . haha I wouldn't hesitate one second to shoot him.

The other thing that scares me is rest areas . I'm going to Minnesota next week ( a 10 hour drive for me ) with my kids alone . I always get scared going into those rest rooms with the kids alone so I'm taking Allie along . She's coming right in , I'll just pretend I didn't see those "NO dogs" signs  ::)
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mama23+pyrs2

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Re: A Good Reminder for Women
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2007, 05:22:47 am »
Thankyou for sharing that ! I recently had a group of teenage boys follow me thru WalMart , asking me really weird/stupid questions . I told an employee about them , they made them leave , and when I started out to my car ( it was after 9 pm ) they were out there waiting ... I had to call my husband to come get me  :-\

What really scares me is someone trying to break into my house . I have no idea how I could possibly get all my kids and get out in time .... So I keep my hubby's rifle in our closet . Good luck to whoever dares to enter my home . haha I wouldn't hesitate one second to shoot him.

The other thing that scares me is rest areas . I'm going to Minnesota next week ( a 10 hour drive for me ) with my kids alone . I always get scared going into those rest rooms with the kids alone so I'm taking Allie along . She's coming right in , I'll just pretend I didn't see those "NO dogs" signs  ::)

Sure, no problem. Gosh, I'm too much of a chicken to take a trip like that alone with the kids, well unless I had no choice. The rest areas make me nervous too. When we drove to GA to get the pups, even having hubby there didn't help, cause well he's a big wuss, at least in my opinion lol. I can't wait for our dogs to grow up so I feel safe having them with me. Bringing Allie sounds like a great idea! I hope you're traveling when it's light out, I really don't like driving at night.

That is a very weird Walmart experience, what idiots. I hate when people make me uneasy. First I get scared and nervous and then I get downright angry that someone is making me feel scared and nervous. The weirdos come out in Walmart at night I swear, doesn't matter where it is.
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Re: A Good Reminder for Women
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 10:12:43 am »
I didn't know these were found on Snopes and didn't bother checking because they seem to be helpful regardless. There may be some more updated and usefuls tips on the links worth reading too though.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 11:33:06 am »
The snopes links actually show why none of it is good advice.

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 11:37:51 am »
Well , I still think it's good advice .

Kristina , I'm leaving at 4 am , so just doing an hour or so in the dark and it's close to home ,so no big deal . The rest will be in the day . I am so excited to hit the road .I haven't been on a road trip since last July ! Except to pick up Spook ....  We have a DVD player so the kids are pretty good ! I just wish Cole knew how to take a bottle so I didn't have to stop so much . LOL  ::)
-Amy
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Allie-Newfoundland
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Crush-Painted Turtle

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Re: A Good Reminder for Women
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 10:43:57 pm »
The snopes links actually show why none of it is good advice.

Yeah, I read it but I still think it's helpful. ;) People have a tendency to become too complacent and it's good to remind people that's not the way of the world we live in. Always good to be watchful and cautious regardless. I know I get understandably caught up in my day to day life with kids and dogs and errands and go go go, that it's easy to forget.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 10:50:19 pm »
Well , I still think it's good advice .

Kristina , I'm leaving at 4 am , so just doing an hour or so in the dark and it's close to home ,so no big deal . The rest will be in the day . I am so excited to hit the road .I haven't been on a road trip since last July ! Except to pick up Spook ....  We have a DVD player so the kids are pretty good ! I just wish Cole knew how to take a bottle so I didn't have to stop so much . LOL  ::)

Yeah that doesn't sound too bad. Roadtrips are definitely fun. I know we had fun going to GA, not to mention we NEVER get away anywhere together. Well we took Elsha, the youngest but left the other 2 with my MIL so it worked out great. She was great the entire trip. At least it's good at this age he should mostly sleep. Stopping to feed is a real pain in the butt though I agree haha. We had to evacuate for I forget which hurricane now, when Jude was only 2 months old. We drove to GA and because of everyone getting out, a trip that should have taken 8 hrs took double that, it was terrible! We had to stop and nurse often at that age too. Ahh, good times lol.

Be safe and have fun!
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Re: A Good Reminder for Women
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2007, 12:57:27 am »
Now I don't think I'm going  :-[ Gas prices have jumped so high it doesn't look like we'll be able to afford it  :'( ($3.31 for the cheap stuff and we own an SUV )
-Amy
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Spook-Newfoundland
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 A dog, and a mother willing to let him have one"

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2007, 01:20:30 am »
Now I don't think I'm going  :-[ Gas prices have jumped so high it doesn't look like we'll be able to afford it  :'( ($3.31 for the cheap stuff and we own an SUV )

OMG, that's way high!!! Ugh this is just out of hand. The most I've seen it around me for the regular is 2.99 which is bad enough. I have an SUV too, it's only a 4cyl and I feel like I'm putting gas in constantly, I try not to drive anywhere!

I'm sorry! :(

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2007, 02:43:57 am »
My hubby has to drive over a hundred miles a day round trip to work  :-[ We might either have to sell our house and move closer to his job (where property prices are much higher so we'll have to live in an icky place most likely ) or he might have to get on in the mines in WY and be gone for weeks at a time . This sucks !
-Amy
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Allie-Newfoundland
Spook-Newfoundland
Whiskey-Arabian
Wolverine-Cockatiel
Polly&Rainbow-Lovebirds (with 3 babies!)
Crush-Painted Turtle

       "Every boy should have two things:
 A dog, and a mother willing to let him have one"

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2007, 02:54:05 am »
They jack up the gas prices ever summer it seems.  Then it comes back down (some  ::) ) in the fall & winter.  Ugh.  I'm so sorry it's messing up your trip.  Hopefully, the gas prices will come back down again before you have to consider moving or having your hubby change jobs.  It is lousy!!  :(
Marie

And my pups:
Daisy a 9 y/o Golden/Lab mix
Sammy a 6-7(?) y/o Great Pyrenees adopted 3/07
Cassie a 3 y/o Pyr/Mystery Snuggle Bunny mix adopted 2/07

My angel girls waiting at the Bridge:
Cara 1989-2001 Great Pyrenees
Sally ? - 1993 Dobie(rescued '92)
Halley 2002-2006 Great Pyrenees