THE B**** THAT SOLD ME MY PUPPY.......

[nickerbokker]

SHE IS FROM FRESNO (SAY HELLO NEXT TIME YOU SEE HER JAIME AND BEAR)......AFTER I TOOK ANGUS TO THE VET I WROTE HER TELLING HER THAT MY VET TOLD ME TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HER AND SEE IF THE OTHER PUPPIES FROM MY LITTER WERE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS, AND TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THE STATUS OF THE PARENTS AND SO FORTH....I DID...SHE DIDN'T RESPOND.....I WROTE HER ANOTHER LETTER YESTERDAY SAYING I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT PROGRESS YOU ARE MAKING WITH TALKING TO THE OWNERS OF THE OTHER PUPPIES....... THIS IS MY REPLY........s orrry for the language by the way

Hi Nicole,
 
     You obviously don't remember or you wouldn't have asked how my adult dogs are; the mother died when the puppies were 3 days old, so apparently she is not doing too well. Not that it is any of your business anyway, but the father was sold to a couple in Eureka in March; they have had him x-rayed and OSA certified and there is nothing wrong with his hips. So maybe it was just the Mom??  I have been able to contact 9 out of 10 other puppy owners from your litter, and none of them have any problems. Actually, they all  suggested (along with one Vet) that your pup may have problems because he was raised in a crate and not given proper exercise growing up, or proper feeding. Do you have a second job as the Puppy Police now??? I hesitated to sell him to someone who lived in an apartment anyway. Remember, I have raised and sold Saints for 15 years, and I have had at least a dozen people come back to me to buy another one after their original Saint died after 10, 11, or 12 years with no problems other than old age. I am so sorry for your puppy.
 
Louise

HOLY H*LL

am i the only one who thinks this letter is TOTALLY out of reason!?!?!?!?

[GYPSY JAZMINE]

That woman isn't high enough on the species spectrum to be called a bitch...Please don't insult any female dogs like that!....Seriously though...I am sorry you are dealing with this...I can't believe someone so ignorant & cold could breed dogs so smart & sweet!

[nickerbokker]

That woman isn't high enough on the species spectrum to be called a bitch...Please don't insult any female dogs like that!....

THANKS FOR WRITING THAT....LOL

i have been kinda hot ever since i got home and read that email....but your response made me laugh!

i REALLY am trying to do everything i can for my boy!  my vets gave me 4 options, but the main two were total hip replacement (both hips), or put him to sleep.....ther e's not way i can put my baby down (and i MEAN my BABY because he is my KID), so if his hips don't turn around here in a while and i opt for surgery, i will drop 10 grand on him....AND I DONT CARE BECAUSE I LOVE HIM TO DEATH....SO FOR HER SO SIT THERE AND WRITE THAT TO ME KILLS ME....I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR MY DOGS, AND THEY ARE NNOOOOOOOOOOOT TTTTTTTTTT CRATED ALL DAY (ANGUS IS FOR HIS OWN GOOD ABOUT 6 HOURS A DAY SO HE DOESN'T GET INTO SOMETHING AND KILL HIMSELF, BUT ONCE HE IS OUT OF THE EATING EVERYTHING STAGE HE WILL HAVE FREE ROAMING OF THE HOUSE JUST LIKE CODY......AND IM RENTING A HOUSE SO THEY HAVE A DAMN YARD) AND HE IS ON GOOD FOOD, BUT I AM CURRENTLY DOING RESEARCH ON THE BEST FOODS FOR HIM, AND SUPPLEMENTS, AND EVERYHTING ELSE I CAN DO........I SPEND 1/3 OF MY DAY WORKING TO BUY MY DOGS FOOD AND TOYS AND PAY VET BILLS, AND I SPEND 2/3 OF MY DAY PLAYING WITH THEM...WHAT MORE DOES SHE WANT FROM ME!  ITS NOT MY FAULT, BUT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH THAT SHE SITS THERE AND SAYS IT IS!  I AM NOT A BAD MOM, I TRY MY VERY BEST!

no she has no gaurantee, she has nothing.....sh e is a backyard breeder, and i knew i should never have gotten a puppy from her, but once i saw him and he picked me, i could not leave with out him! 

i just dont want this woman putting more puppies into the world if this is the kind of care and responsibility she takes of/for her dogs. 

DO NOT BUY PUPPIES FROM LOUISE MARTA, CHERRY AVE, FRESNO CA 93706

[ting1sf]

    I am so sorry to hear about your doggy. I totally understand what you are going through. My first puppy was bought from a backyard breeder. Something in my head told me not to buy her from him but once I saw her every other thought went out the window. Now I have a puppy who never grew to full size, gets sick a lot and cost me my bank account and some more. I still love her to bits but I am really really sick of backyard breeders who just breer two dogs togather without knowing anything or taking responibilty for anything. I was able to contact the owner once and he just said I should do this and that. Anyway.. I am sorry to hear about everything and I really hope your doggy come out of this okay. Also if you get a chance post on craigslist pet section about this breeder or if she is a AKC breeder contact AKC or Kennel clubs and tell them what happened. I don;t know if this is true but someone once told me that AKC does take away papers from a dog. Anyway. Good luck. Wish you well!!!!

[mamadog]

I am speechless....  What kind of person.... I don't even know what to say. If hse thinks she's such a great breeder why didn't SHE have the father x-rayed and OSA certified? Wouldn't she want to only breed a dog known to be healthy?
And to imply, no come right out and say it must be your fault...when how could she know how you raise your puppy? After reading her letter I would be she hasn't exactly kept in touch to see how the puppy is doing. And if the mother died 3 days after the puppies were born, how did she die? Was she examined by a vet? I'd guess no.
I don't even have a word for someone like this......
If I ever find myself in Fresno, not only will I not buy a puppy from her.... I may stop in to give her a piece of my mind. She could apparently use the donation!

Vicki

[nickerbokker]

vicki, wanna go to fresno together?  LOL, im thinking about going.  granted, last night i was going for sure, and today now that i got some sleep and am cooled off a little, i think it best to stay away and do my damage from a distance.  i dunno.....if i do go....i'll bring a camera, and when she see's who it is at her door, and she realizes i am there to kick her @ss, i'll snap a pic. 

[Bear]

I must say that out of all the breeders Jaime and I have met here and around the surrounding areas (which aren't a whole lot) of Fresno, it was easy to label them backyard breeders. The last newf pup we went to go see the parents had mats pretty bad; we actually ended up showing her how to brush her own dogs! I'm really sorry about your experience Nickerbokker - but becareful not to over react. Anything you do or say isn't going to change who she is - she probably knows exactly what she's doing but doesn't care.


But hey.. who is she and what's her number?

Michael~

[newflvr]

Unbelieveable response to your concerns!!  Bad things do happen to this amazing breed and I think it is SO important for the breeder and the owner to be a team in addressing this problems.  To even imply that you are at fault is appaling.  When you live with these guys you LOVE them, want what's best for them!!!!  When my first Newf was diagnosed with severe dysplasia, the breeder offered to give me a new puppy...like he was a defective Ford!!!  All I wanted was a recommendation for treatment.  It was NEVER a thought that we would "get rid of him"!!!  After my second Newf died after having her immunizations, I heard that the breeder told the Newf Club that neither dog was from his line....with his dogs' names on their pedigree!!!  I blew sky high!  I never blamed him for any of these problems!!!!  It was SO disrespectful of their memories!  My husband calmed me down with the thought that he is just a poor SOB...and always will be!  Your breeder can join his club!!! 

I just can't fathom how these people can be so unfeeling about these dogs....and then say they "love" them!!!

How is your boy doing?  Any report?

[taijinrr]

HYMMMMMMM
 

THE OFA SHOULD BE RIGHT ON THE PUPD PAPERS FROM THE SIRE AND DAM

IT'S NOT ONLY HIPS NOW, WE DO ELBOWS TOO
I DONT THINK YOU ARE WRONG
BUT NEXT TIME, TRY A REPUTABLE BREEDER, GET OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOUGHT PUPS BEFORE YOU DID  ALSO SEE THE PEDIGREE.  IT'S QUALITY,,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT QUANITY
E MAIL ME BACK  IF YOU WANT  BILLIE4121@AOL.COM


http://www.taijinrhodesianridgebacks.com/

[jabear]

Nicki,
OMG! Let me know where she lives and I'll hunt her down myself. I am so disgusted by that letter. What the f*%# was she thinking? And to add to what Michael said- she is ignorant and just want the money and could obviously care less about the health & welfare of her dogs. I hope that everything works out with Angus and you even though he is full of problems right now.
Here is a story though that might give you a little comfort. Our breeder got her first Newf like 15 years ago and he was riddles with problems. He has hips so bad that they weren't even painful anymore. The left side wasn't even in the socket at all and the right was so f'ed up that it was only lke 10% in. She could've gotten another puppy but chose to do everything inher power to save her beloved 6 month old Remi. She took him everywhere, and I mean all over the US to try to save him and was told the same thing by everyone- do surgery or put him down. She didn't listen and instead put him on vitamins & supplements regularly. Her research into these methods and lots of TLC has helped him to live like a "normal" dog. His hips are still all out of whack and it is really hard to get up in his old age. Somedays seem like they are his last but he somehow finds the strength to get up and let her know it is not time yet. At 13-14 he is alive, kicking and loved beyond compare. When he does go she'll be devastaded, but at least will know that she gave her dog with no hips and no chance at life the best that life had to offer!

[taijinrr]

GOOD FOR YOU

GREAT REPLY
PLEASE TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO LOOK FOR BEFORE BUYING A PUPPY
MAKE SURE ALL THE PARENTS HAVE THE OFA  HIPS/ELBOWS!
THIS DOSNT MEEN A POSSIBILITY OF BAD HIPS, BUT IT SURE BEATS THE ODDS

ALL OUR DOGS ARE OFA  HIPS/ELBOWS BEFORE BREEDING
 AND WE LOOK TO MAKE BETTER DOGS  NOT MORE
I AM SO SORRY FOR THAT WOMAN, AND HER DOG

[nickerbokker]

thank you to everyone who replied.  it made me feel so much better to know that other people thought that letter was harsh and uncalled for also.  i cannot believe someone has so little compassion for the animals she breeds, LET ALONE HUMANS.  but some people are "special" i guess....

jaime her name is louise marta.  i dont even have her phone number...but i'll look it up.  are you going to make bear eat her for me? 

anyway....i'll post more as i find out what is going to happen.  im not letting this rest as is, im too hurt by it. 

[GYPSY JAZMINE]

I'm in on the Fresno trip!....lol...I say we all just take our big protective dogs with us too!...They have a sense about bad people ya' know.   LOL!

[Zybala]

I bought my Shiloh Shepherd from the Breed Founder, he was 10 months old. I was told nothing but lies about his background, temperment, (I was a nanny at the time and ended up with a dog with fear aggression, human and animal aggression) he has grade 2 CDH and who knows about his elbows as we did not bother to x-ray those. We put thousands of dollars in training with a respected specialist in problem dogs and have ended up with a dog that must be isolated and only be around my husband and myself. His ears did not come up but that is a very minor thing although we were also promised that they would come up "no problem". He was breed quality when we bought him!! I would not use this dog to breed anything and pass these traits on to puppies but his brother, at one year of age with no health testing, has been used at stud by her. We were given no support from her and were told we must have made mistakes to cause these problems as you also were told. It is not only back yard breeders that rip people off. We thought if you want the best go to the breed founder. We are not alone in our situation. There is a long list of people that have been decieved by her. We are doing the best we can for Bear and hope he has a long happy life but it is not easy to keep him safe and always work within his very small limitations. We have luckily found a kennel where he seems to be O.K. and can stay the odd night without problems. He is off his territory and the owner of the kennel breeds Irish Wolfhounds and also understands Shepherds with fear aggression. This allows us a bit of freedom to go away for the odd evening. Our last long haired Shepherd went everywhere with us. I miss being able to take Bear. Education is the best weapon against these people although stricter laws would help. The real victims are the puppies that are bred by these people. The lucky ones end up with families like yours who do everything they can to give them the best quality of life possible the unlucky ones end up with no life at all. When the breeding of dogs is done only for the money and ego it becomes an ugly creature.

Cathy, Stefan and Bear 

[anniemae]

Hi Nicole!
That letter was way out of line..I feel bad what you have been through with Angus. You are a loving and caring dog owner and did not deserve that letter.  Hopefully  word will spread like wild fire and she will be put of business..did you ever report her to anyone? AKC may be a good place to start..who knows, they may revoke her registration rights to her litters. .that may hurt her business if her pure bred litters aren’t registered.. it’s just a thought.  
I hope you heal from this someday..I know you are angry and it will take a while..some day she will get hers.
Ann Marie